Occlumency

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> > Alla:
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> > Could you please suggest another term then, I am really not stuck on the term only on action - what would you call "deliberate and not consensual violation of somebody's private thoughts"? I certainly do not want to offend anybody, but  that is what I consider Snape's *actions* to be. The definition stands for me, the term could be anything, but I honestly think that the analogy was quite close and sure, I absolutely agree with you about the definition of real life rape.
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> Pippin:
> There's a  word for gathering private information that someone does not want you to have:  espionage.  We can call it mind-spying if you want to make it clear that it's the particular method  that you object to.

Alla:

As I just mentioned to Nikkalmati, I will be calling it "nonconsensual mind invasion from now on"

Pippin:

> Now, those of us who decided as we opened our brand new copies of CoS that JKR would never, never ever get us  to fall for Harry's Snape crap again have a cognitive advantage -- we never believed that Snape was guilty of any of that stuff.
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> Those who did believe it, OTOH, are most likely stuck with a cognitive bias which they can do nothing about: a part of their minds is always going to behave as if  Harry's beliefs about Snape were true. <snip>

Alla:

Seriously Pippin? Okay since I am certainly one of those readers, now I am annoyed. Please award me the courtesy of refraining from calling my views any sort of bias. I have different views from you and I do not remember ever calling your views biased.  I did not know that I have to spell it out after so many years we know each other and had been discussing this topic over and over. I do not need *Harry's reasons* to continue hating Snape. I am fully aware that Harry forgave both Dumbledore and Snape, since at the end of the books he became Christ like figure as far as I am concerned. I think Harry's ability to forgive these two pretty much qualifies him for sainthood. That does not mean that I have to do that. Canon tells me that Snape worked for Dumbledore, as far as I am concerned that is *all* canon tells me, canon does not show me any *other* good thing Snape did ever and no, I do not consider Snape's agreeing to protect Harry's life to be unequivocally good thing. I think that much better thing would have been to not agree and thus force Dumbledore to find another protector, because Snape's agreement was IMO hypocritical in the extreme. I hate Snape and Dumbledore because of how *I* see canon facts, thats all there is to it, really.

JMO,

Alla