Chapter Discussion: Chapter Fifteen, Goblet of Fire: Beauxbatons and Durmstrang

[Geoff]

No: HPFGUIDX 192215



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:

> Chapter 15
> Beauxbatons  and Durmstrang


> Questions:
Geoff:
Just a couple of suggestions for the time being.

> 4. What did you think of Hagrid's attempt to control Malfoy's behavior during
> his lesson?

Geoff:
Well, it seemed to work; it shut him up, didn't it? <eg>

> 5. How do you think the Durmstrang ship arrived in the lake? Was this
> apparition? Something else? Why do you think this mode of transportation was
> not more widely used in the Potterverse?

Geoff:
>From canon:
'"A Portkey?" Ron suggested. "Or they could Apparate - maybe you're 
allowed  do it under seventeen wherever they come from?"

"You can't Apparate inside the Hogwarts grounds. how often do I have to tell
you?" said Hermione impatiently.'
(GOF "Beauxbatons and Durmstrang" p.213 UK edition)

OK, that's Apparition eliminated...

We do know that a number of people can Portkey together as the group
did from Stoatshead Hill in Chapter 6. But this begs the question 'Can you
Portkey something big like a ship?' Also, from the description of a Portkey's
operation in that chapter I get the impression that this journey, like 
Apparition is very quick and you "come out of warp" at the point you choose 
which, incidentally,  rather makes a mockery of the way the films have 
handled the two transportation methods.

To be quite frank, I haven't thought about it in the past but I feel it has to be 
something other than these two we have mentioned. Maybe there are spells 
to transport objects plus users which are not generally known... Maybe a 
Dark Arts spell? We do have instances later, certainly in DH, of Voldemort 
and Snape flying without broomsticks so there must be other methods 
which JKR didn't trouble to document.