¡DeathEaterDogma!

Bart Lidofsky bart at moosewise.com
Sat Jun 22 18:23:58 UTC 2013


No: HPFGUIDX 192473

Bart:

	Actually, the Deatheaters are extremely pragmatic; they rely on their 
"useful idiot" (to use a term garnered from Stalin) followers to be 
dogmatic.

Walabio:

> 	The term is usually credited to Stalin, but this is what the senior reference librarian at the Library of Congress has to say about the issue:
>
> 	Despite often being attributed to Lenin, in 1987, Grant Harris, senior reference librarian at the Library of Congress, declared that "We have not been able to identify this phrase among [Lenin's] published works."

Bart:
     I said "garnered from Stalin", although I should have said 
"garnered" or "attributed" to Lenin. There are many Russian works 
(including many by Lenin and Stalin) which have never been published in 
the U.S. and therefore would not be in the Library of Congress; here, 
however is a 1987 article by William Safire, one of the world's foremost 
experts on the English language: http://tinyurl.com/lhlsxsd (this points 
to a New York Times article). Now, back on topic.

Walabio:
At any rate, none ever claimed that all DeathEaters believe the Dogma (I 
always suspected that Lucius Malfoy just wanted power and wealth; while, 
Wormtail just wanted to stand behind the biggest kid in the playground 
for protection), but many DeathEaters buy into the dogma: The Dark Lord 
believes it. The LeStranges in general and the fanatic Beatrix LeStrange 
in particular believe the dogma whole-heartedly.

Bart:
     Morty is a half-blood. Also, as Dumbledore makes eminently clear, 
he is after nothing but power, and will say and do anything necessary to 
gain it. Morty, portrayed as a sociopath/psychopath, lacks the ability 
to think of other people as people; he sees them as objects to be 
manipulated to get whatever results he desires.

Bart:
>> 	On the other hand, the opponents of the Deatheaters are collectivists, willing to subvert their individual needs for the, if you will, "greater good". This is important; note that the trio managed to get through several key crises because Voldemort's forces got selfish, putting their own desires over service to their cause.
Walabio:
> 	I believe that you might confuse political communism with unitcohesion:
>
> 	Militaryunits have to act in a coordinated way to be effective.  The order of the Phnix does not have an overarching economic policy.

Bart:
     I said "collectivist", and I meant "collectivist", not "communist". 
Also note that even the members of the goon squads were far more 
interested in who got the credit than in getting the job done.

     Bart




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