From HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com Sun Nov 1 17:55:03 2015 From: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com (HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com) Date: 1 Nov 2015 17:55:03 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, Sunday, 01 November 2015 Message-ID: <1446400503.13.31451.m17@yahoogroups.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192805 Weekly Chat reminder When: Sunday, 01 November 2015 07:00 PM to 08:00 PM (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London Where: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. 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When I read it before, as items were published, I read an audio only source. This time though I am coming face to face..or bookface, with the words themselves. I am still amazed at Rowling's storytelling power, especially for a first-time author. Anyway, I am wondering if anyone wants to read with me? If not, I am hoping my asking questions might generate some fresh discussion? Thanks, Kare From MadameSSnape at aol.com Mon Nov 9 01:09:19 2015 From: MadameSSnape at aol.com (MadameSSnape at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:09:19 -0500 Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? Message-ID: <93f84.3464738c.43714c3e@aol.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192808 Oh, I wish I could! But my reading time is currently occupied with books on the Battle of Gettysburg, since I'm taking an exam next month to (hopefully!) become a Licensed Battlefield Guide there! Sherrie In a message dated 11/8/2015 6:41:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com writes: Hi Folks, I am reading the entire series for the second time. When I read it before, as items were published, I read an audio only source. This time though I am coming face to face..or bookface, with the words themselves. I am still amazed at Rowling's storytelling power, especially for a first-time author. Anyway, I am wondering if anyone wants to read with me? If not, I am hoping my asking questions might generate some fresh discussion? Thanks, Kare -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lui_rhys_01 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 01:11:02 2015 From: lui_rhys_01 at yahoo.com (lui) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 01:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? References: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192809 Hi Karen, I've read the books several times over the years and it really doesn't get old. It seems like at every reread, you discover something new. I'm reading some HP fanfics now (mostly after the epilogue stories) but I'd like to recommend something for your since you'll be rereading everything- Google "Mark Read Harry Potter", You're welcome in advance :) Luirhys -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 11/9/15, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 9, 2015, 7:30 AM Hi Folks, I am reading the entire series for the second time. When I read it before, as items were published, I read an audio only source. This time though I am coming face to face..or bookface, with the words themselves. I am still amazed at Rowling's storytelling power, especially for a first-time author. Anyway, I am wondering if anyone wants to read with me? If not, I am hoping my asking questions might generate some fresh discussion? Thanks, Kare From sherriola at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 09:34:11 2015 From: sherriola at gmail.com (Sherry Gomes) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 02:34:11 -0700 Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38e301d11ad1$cb321880$61964980$@gmail.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192810 Karen wrote: Hi Folks, I am reading the entire series for the second time. When I read it before, as items were published, I read an audio only source. This time though I am coming face to face..or bookface, with the words themselves. I am still amazed at Rowling's storytelling power, especially for a first-time author. Anyway, I am wondering if anyone wants to read with me? If not, I am hoping my asking questions might generate some fresh discussion? Thanks, Kare Sherry now: I'd love to see us get some discussion going, now that it's been a number of years since the series ended. So, I'm game. I've read the books many many times, so I may not exactly read along, but I might read the books I haven't read often. I'm looking forward to your thoughts as you read and maybe some good discussion here. Sherry From shahara9 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 12:09:29 2015 From: shahara9 at yahoo.com (Shahara) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 06:09:29 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192811 I'm about to begin the illustrated "Philosophers Stone" - so I'm in! ~shahara~ > On Nov 8, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > Hi Folks, > I am reading the entire series for the second time. When I read it > before, as items were published, I read an audio only source. > This time though I am coming face to face..or bookface, with the words > themselves. > I am still amazed at Rowling's storytelling power, especially for a > first-time author. > Anyway, I am wondering if anyone wants to read with me? If not, I am > hoping my asking questions might generate some fresh discussion? > Thanks, > Kare > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Mon Nov 9 23:58:08 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:58:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192812 Wow, thanks for that idea. Looks really addictive. I am hoping for a more person to person interaction though which is why I asked here. Even if all I do is start fresh discussions. Did bookmark that page though! Kare > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, lui lui_rhys_01 at yahoo.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > Hi Karen, I've read the books several times over the years and it really doesn't get old. It seems like at every reread, you discover something new. I'm reading some HP fanfics now (mostly after the epilogue stories) but I'd like to recommend something for your since you'll be rereading everything- Google "Mark Read Harry Potter", You're welcome in advance :) Luirhys -------------------------------------------- From klewellen at shellworld.net Mon Nov 9 23:54:28 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:54:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: <93f84.3464738c.43714c3e@aol.com> References: <93f84.3464738c.43714c3e@aol.com> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192813 Oh Sherrie, Will imagine positive results for you on that dream. It sounds like a deep passion, may it be realized for you as you desire! Kare > On Sun, 8 Nov 2015, MadameSSnape at aol.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > Oh, I wish I could! But my reading time is currently occupied with books > on the Battle of Gettysburg, since I'm taking an exam next month to > (hopefully!) become a Licensed Battlefield Guide there! > Sherrie > > > From iam.kemper at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 02:47:40 2015 From: iam.kemper at gmail.com (iam.kemper at gmail.com) Date: 09 Nov 2015 18:47:40 -0800 Subject: Kreacher and Dobby switched! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192814 Kare: Hi Folks, I am reading the entire series for the second time. ... Anyway, I am wondering if anyone wants to read with me? If not, I am hoping my asking questions might generate some fresh discussion? Kemper: I'm considering reading SS to my kids starting tonight, so I might be down! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MadameSSnape at aol.com Tue Nov 10 01:30:45 2015 From: MadameSSnape at aol.com (MadameSSnape at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 20:30:45 -0500 Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? Message-ID: <1e26c3.4634377a.4372a2c5@aol.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192815 Thank you, Karen! It IS a deep passion - I've been studying the Civil War and Gettysburg since I was not-quite-five, and I want to share that passion, to make sure that the next generation doesn't forget what price was paid for the freedom and unity of this nation. And after December 5th, let me know where everyone is, and I'll jump back in!!! Sherrie "In great deeds, something abides - on great fields, something stays. Forms change and pass; bodies disappear - but spirits linger, to consecrate ground for the vision-place of souls..." - Joshua L. Chamberlain, Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, 3 Oct1889 In a message dated 11/9/2015 7:41:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com writes: Oh Sherrie, Will imagine positive results for you on that dream. It sounds like a deep passion, may it be realized for you as you desire! Kare > On Sun, 8 Nov 2015, MadameSSnape at aol.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > Oh, I wish I could! But my reading time is currently occupied with books > on the Battle of Gettysburg, since I'm taking an exam next month to > (hopefully!) become a Licensed Battlefield Guide there! > Sherrie > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liz.treky at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 10 07:58:34 2015 From: liz.treky at ntlworld.com (liz.treky at ntlworld.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 07:58:34 -0000 Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: References: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53A5F6CC18A34641BD852EED0C231AE2@LizHP> No: HPFGUIDX 192816 Would love to have discussion again, I'm in :) -----Original Message----- From: Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:58 PM To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? Wow, thanks for that idea. Looks really addictive. I am hoping for a more person to person interaction though which is why I asked here. Even if all I do is start fresh discussions. Did bookmark that page though! Kare > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, lui lui_rhys_01 at yahoo.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > Hi Karen, I've read the books several times over the years and it really > doesn't get old. It seems like at every reread, you discover something > new. I'm reading some HP fanfics now (mostly after the epilogue stories) > but I'd like to recommend something for your since you'll be rereading > everything- Google "Mark Read Harry Potter", You're welcome in advance :) > Luirhys -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Posted by: Karen Lewellen ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links From frogcreekwoods at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 12:41:45 2015 From: frogcreekwoods at gmail.com (FrogCreekWoods) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 07:41:45 -0500 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Kreacher and Dobby switched! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5641E609.9050400@gmail.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192817 I am in a perpetual reread of the series! I listen to it while I am in the kitchen. I really find cooking and cleaning boring and a waste of time so it's the only thing that makes my time in the kitchen bearable. lol But I am physically reading the Illustrated version of Sorcerer's Stone, which has been a delight. So sure - I'm up for any HP discussions! On 11/9/2015 9:47 PM, iam.kemper at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > Kare: > > Hi Folks, > I am reading the entire series for the second time. ... > Anyway, I am wondering if anyone wants to read with me? If not, I am > hoping my asking questions might generate some fresh discussion? > > > Kemper: > I'm considering reading SS to my kids starting tonight, so I might be > down! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Wed Nov 11 01:49:32 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 20:49:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192818 Well nifty! Perhaps I had better ask the mods how not to break house rules? Shall we do this in an organized fashion, I am for example in a Charles Dickens reading group where we decide chapters to read and discuss. Or shall I simply toss out questions as I go along? I am a blooming fast reader, unless I am reading with others equally enjoying the pages. Thoughts? Thanks to those willing to revisit, Kare From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 11 03:15:02 2015 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey overton) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 21:15:02 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: <53A5F6CC18A34641BD852EED0C231AE2@LizHP> References: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <53A5F6CC18A34641BD852EED0C231AE2@LizHP> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192819 What book are you reading out of the Harry Potter books? I think it would have been cool if in the Goblet of Fire book the Quidditch cup could have happened along with the Triwizard Tournament. Corey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Nov 13 00:12:38 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:12:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: References: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <53A5F6CC18A34641BD852EED0C231AE2@LizHP> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192820 Hi, I am reading the series in order. granted I am working from memory, but would not have combining the triwizard tournament and the world cup have presented an issue for Victor? Kare On Tue, 10 Nov 2015, 'corey overton' coverton1982 at hotmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > What book are you reading out of the Harry Potter books? I think it would have been cool if in the Goblet of Fire book the Quidditch cup could have happened along with the Triwizard Tournament. > > Corey > > > > From klewellen at shellworld.net Fri Nov 13 00:30:45 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:30:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: so, let's start with name choices &? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192821 I am so delighted others are up for a discussion of the books. Still wondering about really reading together, but at least we can discuss thoughts as I go. I have honestly forgotten how addictive these books can be in truth! Well not forgotten, but it is a different degree of fun when you do not have to wait for the next publication. You are screaming what?, at the end..Then can reach for the next one. The choice of names, the blending of the real and the perhaps fictional is fascinating me at the moment. For example I had thought one very important name was a fake. That is until Google did Hedy Lamar's doodle the other day. Still, did Rowling ever repeat a name? Has she ever talked about how she chose them? One more, what detail from the first few chapters of Ss, or PS if in the United Kingdom, would you most like to have seen explored more fully? I will share, but want to give others a chance as well. Kare From frogcreekwoods at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 00:47:53 2015 From: frogcreekwoods at gmail.com (FrogCreekWoods) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:47:53 -0500 Subject: [HPforGrownups] so, let's start with name choices &? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56453339.8080205@gmail.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192822 One name that might have been a weird coincidence was in the Order of the Phoenix. When Harry was talking to Dudley on the playground giving him a hard time about beating up a 10 year old boy, he said something like "I know you did Mark Evans last week". Of course Lily's maiden name was Evans. Maybe she meant to tie those up together or just threw it out there and didn't catch it. Not sure. JKR has no equal when it comes to creating names. I was just chuckling the other day over how awesome Xenophilius Lovegood's name is. "a lover (philius) of things that are different or unusual (xeno)." She really is a literary genius. I was going to ask you all - at what point during reading SS for the first time did you realize it was something really special? For me I remember by the time they were on the Hogwarts Express and the pictures in the chocolate frog cards moved, and then at Hogwarts when the portraits moved and talked, I knew it was something really different and amazing. Ellie On 11/12/2015 7:30 PM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > I am so delighted others are up for a discussion of the books. Still > wondering about really reading together, but at least we can discuss > thoughts as I go. I have honestly forgotten how addictive these books > can be in truth! Well not forgotten, but it is a different degree of > fun when you do not have to wait for the next publication. You are > screaming what?, at the end..Then can reach for the next one. The > choice of names, the blending of the real and the perhaps fictional is > fascinating me at the moment. For example I had thought one very > important name was a fake. That is until Google did Hedy Lamar's > doodle the other day. Still, did Rowling ever repeat a name? Has she > ever talked about how she chose them? One more, what detail from the > first few chapters of Ss, or PS if in the United Kingdom, would you > most like to have seen explored more fully? I will share, but want to > give others a chance as well. Kare > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coverton1982 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 13 01:15:53 2015 From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (corey overton) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:15:53 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] re-reading hp, anyone want to join me? In-Reply-To: References: <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1957487633.1745074.1447031462453.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <53A5F6CC18A34641BD852EED0C231AE2@LizHP> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192823 Yeah, I guess it would, but I think it would have made the Goblet of Fire more interesting. Corey > Kare wrote: > Hi, I am reading the series in order. granted I am working from memory, > but would not have combining the triwizard tournament and the world cup > have presented an issue for Victor? Kare -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lui_rhys_01 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 13 05:33:30 2015 From: lui_rhys_01 at yahoo.com (lui) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 05:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HPforGrownups] so, let's start with name choices &? In-Reply-To: <56453339.8080205@gmail.com> References: <56453339.8080205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1358344895.2745348.1447392811031.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192824 Mark Evans really had the whole fandom going then. Everyone was speculating that he was related to Lily somehow, but I think Rowling issued a statement that he was a filler character. I love the stories behind the names! Not just the characters, but almost everything like the house names, potions, creatures etc, have a meaning behind them. I was a bit late in the HP Fandom, my dad gave me a copy of SS and when I liked it, he bought all the remaining books, which was up to GOF at the time. I was a lot amazed by SS but I started loving it by POA. My head was blown by the time they got to the shrieking shack. It was partly because of Book3 that I hold friendship and loyalty in such high regard. Luirhys > Ellie (frogcreekwoods at gmail.com) wrote: > One name that might have been a weird coincidence was in the Order of the Phoenix. When Harry was talking to Dudley on the playground giving him a hard time about beating up a 10 year old boy, he said something like "I know you did Mark Evans last week". Of course Lily's maiden name was Evans. Maybe she meant to tie those up together or just threw it out there and didn't catch it. Not sure. JKR has no equal when it comes to creating names. I was just chuckling the other day over how awesome Xenophilius Lovegood's name is. "a lover (philius) of things that are different or unusual (xeno)." She really is a literary genius. I was going to ask you all - at what point during reading SS for the first time did you realize it was something really special? For me I remember by the time they were on the Hogwarts Express and the pictures in the chocolate frog cards moved, and then at Hogwarts when the portraits moved and talked, I knew it was something really different and amazing. Ellie < -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mellyff at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 12:42:54 2015 From: mellyff at gmail.com (mellyff at gmail.com) Date: 13 Nov 2015 04:42:54 -0800 Subject: [HPforGrownups] so, let's start with name choices &? In-Reply-To: <1358344895.2745348.1447392811031.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56453339.8080205@gmail.com> <1358344895.2745348.1447392811031.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192825 Love the names she comes up with! (I'm joining in...I'm one who is also in a perpetual re-read of the series.) I usually listen as I'm driving. I'm currently reading Order of the Phoenix and was laughing over Professor Grubbly-Plank's name again as it came up. As regards to when I knew SS was something special...I'm a teacher, and quite a few years ago, we would periodically get newly published books to read, and then write a review for one of the school library publications. I picked up this newly published book called Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. I'll be honest, when I first started reading it, I was reminded strongly of Roald Dahl and Matilda, just because the Dursley's were so over-the-top horrible. But by the time we got to the owl's persistently trying to deliver his letter, I was hooked. I still remember thinking at the end of it..."I hope she continues this series!" :D (And even though I've been teaching for 25 years, I still wish I could go to Hogwarts!) Melissa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drednort at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 13:41:08 2015 From: drednort at gmail.com (Shaun Hately) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 00:41:08 +1100 Subject: [HPforGrownups] so, let's start with name choices &? In-Reply-To: <56453339.8080205@gmail.com> References: <56453339.8080205@gmail.com> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192826 On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:47 AM, FrogCreekWoods frogcreekwoods at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > I was going to ask you all - at what point during reading SS for the first time did you realize it was something really special? All my adult life, I've been involved in mentoring and advocating for the rights and needs of intellectually gifted children - really clever kids. I'm now a teacher of such kids, but back in 1999, I was working as a software engineer during the whole 'Y2K situation' and doing voluntary work with gifted kids. The Harry Potter books took off in the gifted community just a little bit before they grabbed mainstream attention - not by much but enough that I was seeing lots of references to 'Harry Potter' books on email discussion lists devoted to gifted children and how people's kids were loving them. Most of these lists were based out of America, and I'm in Australia, so initially I assumed it was something American but when I visited a bookstore during my lunchbreak, I saw 'Philosopher's Stone' and 'Chamber of Secrets' sitting on the shelf and so picked them up just out of idle interest. The covers of those editions were interesting - a black and white photo of a steam train for PS, and a black and white photo of a Ford Anglia in the clouds for CoS. They gave no real clue of what the books were. I started reading them on the train home that evening. Now. I grew up in the 1980s loving stories set in schools, especially boarding schools. From the late 19th century until about the 1960s, the 'English school story' was a massive part of English children's literature - literally hundreds of books in that genre were published and though I came along a little later, I read a lot of them as a kid. My own school life was pretty awful in many ways for many reasons, and these stories of other types of schools helped me get through. So when I realised that what I was reading really was a classic English school story - but with the added bonus of magic - that hooked me. I knew - because I collect them - that the school story was considered a dead and dated genre so for new books of that type to be so successful, that also told me there had to be something special about them. It was also immediately obvious to me why these books were such a hit in the gifted community - books with realistic gifted children as characters are pretty rare, especially girls - and Hermione immediately stood out as one of the best examples of this I'd seen. As a former gifted child that also really engaged me. A character where being clever, very clever, was a major positive. Brilliant. (Incidentally, I would say Ron and Harry also come across as intellectually gifted - not to the same extent as Hermione - in a technical sense, I'd say she's 99.9th percentile or higher, and Harry and Ron are around 98th percentile - but definitely gifted. But for none of them is that all they are - they are brave. Resourceful. And wonderful friends. I'd finished Philosopher's Stone by the time I got off the train which meant it took me about an hour. Now, I do read very fast - but to read that that fast it really sucked me in so I could not control or restrain myself. I also saw a lot of Harry's experiences for myself. I mentioned before that a lot of my school life as a child was problematic. The worst year of my life was when I was 12 and I wound up attending a school where I was horribly bullied and it was just allowed to happen. I also didn't fit in and was academically unchallenged. It was hell. But because of that, just after I turned 13, I started at a new school - a school totally different to anything I experienced before. And I loved it. And I still remember vividly the feeling I had the first day I walked through the gates of that school and realised I was finally somewhere I could belong and fit in and maybe, just maybe, be happy. So I really felt Harry's similar feelings vividly. Shaun (Crikey Elf - seeing it's been a while since the list was active! Nice to see some good discussion). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Sun Nov 15 01:46:10 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:46:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: goblet of fire question? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192827 Hi everyone, Terrific posts that I am going to address. I have absolutely no discipline where this series is concerned. As i think I said it is only my second time reading it, with my first being a recording. In any case, I have only now finished goblet of fire. yes I have read four of them in a very short span of time smiles. I will have lots of questions later, as I will be rereading somethings. Still I noticed a rather large omission, and imagine someone must have noticed this as well at publication. When everyone gets back to Kings cross at the end of the novel and are saying goodbye to harry before he leaves with his uncle, where was Gini? I could understand her absence the rest of the trip, but she had to leave the train station so, her not being there at all was Unusual. Anyone recall if an explanation for that was ever provided? Kare From sherriola at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 02:18:30 2015 From: sherriola at gmail.com (Sherry Gomes) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:18:30 -0700 Subject: [HPforGrownups] goblet of fire question? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <054601d11f4b$ec4f4000$c4edc000$@gmail.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192828 Kare wrote: Still I noticed a rather large omission, and imagine someone must have noticed this as well at publication. When everyone gets back to Kings cross at the end of the novel and are saying goodbye to harry before he leaves with his uncle, where was Ginny? I could understand her absence the rest of the trip, but she had to leave the train station so, her not being there at all was Unusual. Anyone recall if an explanation for that was ever provided? Sherry now: The books are almost always from Harry's point of view. Ginny wasn't much on his radar at this time. He had many other things on his mind with what he'd just been though. As for noticing girls, he was attracted to Cho at this point. Ginny was nothing more than Ron's younger sister, and the incidents in Harry's second year is two years in the past. Sherry From Meliss9900 at aol.com Sun Nov 15 03:11:42 2015 From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (meliss9900) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 21:11:42 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] goblet of fire question? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192829 Ginny, as I recall, disappeared Right after the Ball. (By that I mean she just didn't appear in the story any more. Mel. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: "'Sherry Gomes' sherriola at gmail.com [HPforGrownups]" Date:11/14/2015 8:18 PM (GMT-06:00) To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com Cc: Subject: RE: [HPforGrownups] goblet of fire question? Kare wrote: Still I noticed a rather large omission, and imagine someone must have noticed this as well at publication. When everyone gets back to Kings cross at the end of the novel and are saying goodbye to harry before he leaves with his uncle, where was Ginny? I could understand her absence the rest of the trip, but she had to leave the train station so, her not being there at all was Unusual. Anyone recall if an explanation for that was ever provided? Sherry now: The books are almost always from Harry's point of view. Ginny wasn't much on his radar at this time. He had many other things on his mind with what he'd just been though. As for noticing girls, he was attracted to Cho at this point. Ginny was nothing more than Ron's younger sister, and the incidents in Harry's second year is two years in the past. Sherry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I mean you no longer have to wait between, which means you have an excuse to say...oh I can just start the next one. And before you know it the time is 4 a. m. In any case, I just finished Half blood Prince last night, ahem this morning. *warning* if for any reason you have not read this book, please do not go below this line! You know its the second time I witnessed Dumbledore's final moments. Granted I was rather hysterical the first time, and did not get much better in the next sentence or two. Still when I read last night I am left with the question. When Professor Dumbledore says please to Snape, is he asking for his life, or for his death? There are a lot of layers to the question, so I hope a few take a shot. Also, if anyone feels really kind, I would appreciate checking a sentence from book 5 against my copy. It is electronic, one and I suspect a typo because the sentence does not make any sense. Perhaps best off list. When I finish I think I will read a bit of Rowling nonfiction. I still would love a book discussing her creative process, how names were chosen as I spoke of before. Still I have so much respect for her artistry under pressure that it is hard to articulate. Thanks, Kare From shahara9 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 25 02:15:25 2015 From: shahara9 at yahoo.com (Shahara) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:15:25 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192833 I thought Dumbledore was pleading for Snape to do the deed. I knew Snape was a double agent and it had to be done. Plus D stopped Harry from doing anything but witness it all. Good plan. ~shahara~ > On Nov 24, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > Still when I read last night I am left with the question. When Professor Dumbledore says please to Snape, is he asking for his life, or for his death? . > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogcreekwoods at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 01:50:22 2015 From: frogcreekwoods at gmail.com (Frogcreekwoods@gmail.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:50:22 -0500 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B975B0D-DA6B-4DC2-9F1C-8E20D1C97637@gmail.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192834 Spoiler alert from Deathly Hallows: Ellie: It's explained in Deathly Hallows in the memory Snape gives Harry when he is dying. Dumbledore had asked Snape to be the one to kill him when the time came, because he was already dying slowly from the curse from Gaunt's ring. Snape had argued with Dumbledore about it, saying he didn't want to kill him, or anybody. Dumbledore, I think, was begging Snape to please do what he had asked him to do, and kill him instead of Draco doing it, or someone else. On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net mailto:klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: Still when I read last night I am left with the question. When Professor Dumbledore says please to Snape, is he asking for his life, or for his death? There are a lot of layers to the question, so I hope a few take a shot. Thanks, Kare -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Wed Nov 25 03:31:31 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 22:31:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: <3B975B0D-DA6B-4DC2-9F1C-8E20D1C97637@gmail.com> References: <3B975B0D-DA6B-4DC2-9F1C-8E20D1C97637@gmail.com> Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192835 shhhh shame on you! Seriously, I recall there is an explanation. Still my question was indeed more about the actual moment of his death. I agree he was asking Snape to do it yes, but at the time of my first reading I thought the reasoning was different. Kare On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, 'Frogcreekwoods at gmail.com' frogcreekwoods at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > Spoiler alert from Deathly Hallows: > > > Ellie: > > It's explained in Deathly Hallows in the memory Snape gives Harry when he is dying. Dumbledore had asked Snape to be the one to kill him when the time came, because he was already dying slowly from the curse from Gaunt's ring. Snape had argued with Dumbledore about it, saying he didn't want to kill him, or anybody. Dumbledore, I think, was begging Snape to please do what he had asked him to do, and kill him instead of Draco doing it, or someone else. > > > From drednort at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 07:34:34 2015 From: drednort at gmail.com (Shaun Hately) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 18:34:34 +1100 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192836 On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: > . When Professor Dumbledore says please to Snape, is he asking for his > life, or for his death? > Spoilers for 'The Deathly Hallows' follow. S O S T O P R E A D I N G I F Y O U D O N O T L I K E S P O I L E R S He's asking Snape to kill him. This is made clear in 'flashback' scenes in the 'The Deathly Hallows'. Dumbledore knows his death is inevitable anyway, but his major goal in this is to save Draco - to stop Draco from becoming a murderer. Dumbledore is a teacher, and Draco is one of his students - and Dumbledore wants to save him from himself. Murder is a terrible act of evil - and Draco would not come back from that. Snape, on the other hand, being fully aware of Dumbledore's condition knows he is not murdering him, but is rather engaged in an act of mercy if anything, so it won't damage his soul the way it would Draco's. It also serves to thwart Voldemort's chance of victory, but how that happens is an even bigger spoiler. > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogcreekwoods at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 10:49:10 2015 From: frogcreekwoods at gmail.com (Frogcreekwoods@gmail.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 05:49:10 -0500 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192837 Just a admin question - I thought in this group it was agreed that we assume everyone has read all the books? But it's been a while since I joined. I'll be more careful with spoiler alerts if that's not the case. > On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:34 AM, Shaun Hately drednort at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: >> . When Professor Dumbledore says please to Snape, is he asking for his life, or for his death? > > Spoilers for 'The Deathly Hallows' follow. > > S > O > > S > T > O > P > > R > E > A > D > I > N > G > > I > F > > Y > O > U > > D > O > > N > O > T > > L > I > K > E > > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > S > > He's asking Snape to kill him. This is made clear in 'flashback' scenes in the 'The Deathly Hallows'. Dumbledore knows his death is inevitable anyway, but his major goal in this is to save Draco - to stop Draco from becoming a murderer. Dumbledore is a teacher, and Draco is one of his students - and Dumbledore wants to save him from himself. Murder is a terrible act of evil - and Draco would not come back from that. > > Snape, on the other hand, being fully aware of Dumbledore's condition knows he is not murdering him, but is rather engaged in an act of mercy if anything, so it won't damage his soul the way it would Draco's. > > It also serves to thwart Voldemort's chance of victory, but how that happens is an even bigger spoiler. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kelleyscorpio at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 23:12:57 2015 From: kelleyscorpio at gmail.com (kelleyscorpio at gmail.com) Date: 25 Nov 2015 15:12:57 -0800 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192838 > Ellie wrote : > Just a admin question - I thought in this group it was agreed that we assume everyone has read all the books? But it's been a while since I joined. I'll be more careful with spoiler alerts if that's not the case. Kelley: Yes, that's the assumption we've operated under. If there are newer members who want to discuss but haven't finished the series, and members are willing to included spoiler space and warnings, it would certainly be fine to do, of course. But yes, it surely must be well understood to people joining the group now that they're going to find spoilers everywhere, so they must realize they are "reading at their own risk" as we used to say when new books would come out. --Kelley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drednort at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 01:36:56 2015 From: drednort at gmail.com (Shaun Hately) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:36:56 +1100 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192839 On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:49 PM, 'Frogcreekwoods at gmail.com' frogcreekwoods at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > > > Just a admin question - I thought in this group it was agreed that we assume everyone has read all the books? But it's been a while > since I joined. I'll be more careful with spoiler alerts if that's not the case. As Kelley has said, you can make that assumption and you're under no obligation to include spoiler space or to avoid spoilers. I just chose to in this one case because of the specific nature of the question and the fact that HPFGU hasn't been that active recently. But it's not required. Shaun -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Thu Nov 26 02:05:58 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:05:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] Dumbledore and Snape. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192840 Oh sure, I am working from that idea too. My shhhh was a tease. In fact that was why I asked at first about a sort of group re-read, since it has been a while since we had some deep discussion. The story never grows old to be sure. Kare > > Shaun: > > As Kelley has said, you can make that assumption and you're under no > obligation to include spoiler space or to avoid spoilers. I just chose to > in this one case because of the specific nature of the question and the > fact that HPFGU hasn't been that active recently. But it's not required. > > Shaun > From klewellen at shellworld.net Sun Nov 29 03:57:13 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:57:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: the reserection scene. Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192841 Hi all, sending more than one question tonight. When I reached the Resurrection scene, as in when Harry discovers and uses the stone, I had a thought. I am perhaps feeling all this rather deeply. Still when Harry asks "does it hurt?" I thought of parents reading that scene to their children facing death for whatever reason in their own way. I wondered if Rowling drafted that moment, knowing that beyond the book's first experiences, it might prove comforting to children likewise needing courage to face things like cancer and the like? Kare From klewellen at shellworld.net Sun Nov 29 04:02:50 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:02:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: hp fan fiction? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192842 Hi again, Where does one find this, of quality I mean? I just finished the last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing all over again, smiles! Especially because I know there are details I might have missed. Still I am equally interested if anyone has sought to tell the stories that I really really really wish could get told. More on that in a moment. Where do I find the goodies? Karen From klewellen at shellworld.net Sun Nov 29 04:21:01 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:21:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: 19 years later? Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192843 Last one for tonight I promise! Was Rowling 36 when she finished writing the books? That is Harry's age in this scene. I am wondering Additionally, is that the only time Molly's Maiden name is mentioned? Harry checks the battered watch that had belonged to Fabian Prewett. You knew Fabian was Molly's brother, she tells Harry that when she gives him the watch, but I cannot remember the last name showing up, unless I missed that in another book? Yes I am tempted to check laughs. Who raised Teddy Lupin? I am guessing that the girl he was snogging laughter! When James discovers him, was Percy's daughter, but you are not told this specifically. Percy is referenced being there, so I am guessing? I am still doing math in my head, to figure out how old Harry's son James is...perhaps 13? Al is eleven and Lilly 9...which clearly means Ginny and Harry got rather busy so to speak . I remember the other two speculations from our discussions when the books were first published. If Lavender Brown became a werewolf, although nothing indicated she was actually bitten. What became of Luna? I always hoped she married Neville. Last question, really! Someone mentioned that every name, every place choice has a story...where is the story to be found? I really do have half a mind to start all over lol! Kare From cresorchid at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 14:31:10 2015 From: cresorchid at gmail.com (Sandra Lynn) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 08:31:10 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192844 Karens said: Hi again, Where does one find this [fan fiction], of quality I mean? I just finished the last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing all over again, smiles! Especially because I know there are details I might have missed. Still I am equally interested if anyone has sought to tell the stories that I really really really wish could get told. More on that in a moment. Where do I find the goodies? That's a good question. There are tons of places to find good stuff, but it's mixed in with mediocre to horrible writing. The best way to find high quality fan fiction is to ask for recommendations from people you know who read fan fiction and whose taste in reading mirrors yours. If you don't know anyone who reads fanfiction, just ask around and then see which stories recommended fit your tastes. You can then look for other stories by those same authors or stories that the author likes. Crescent On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: > > > Hi again, Where does one find this, of quality I mean? I just finished the > last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing all over again, > smiles! Especially because I know there are details I might have missed. > Still I am equally interested if anyone has sought to tell the stories that > I really really really wish could get told. More on that in a moment. Where > do I find the goodies? Karen > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com Sun Nov 29 17:55:03 2015 From: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com (HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com) Date: 29 Nov 2015 17:55:03 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, Sunday, 29 November 2015 Message-ID: <1448819703.15.19341.m9@yahoogroups.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192845 Weekly Chat reminder When: Sunday, 29 November 2015 07:00 PM to 08:00 PM (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London Where: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK From: HPforGrownups Calendar Privacy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "bell.png" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From lilandriss at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 13:52:36 2015 From: lilandriss at yahoo.com (Alanna) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 13:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1201845426.11448842.1448805156601.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192846 Oh boy. There's lots of places to find good fics if you're willing to wade through literally thousands of them. Aside from fanfiction.net, there's harrypotterfanfiction.com, mugglenet and a third whos's name I can't remember. They're all huge archives. ?Harrypotterfanfiction.com has over 80,000 alone. Just Google harry potter fan fiction and you'll see some of the larger archives.? Lanna:)? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: ? Hi again, Where does one find this, of quality I mean? I just finished the last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing all over again, smiles! Especially because I know there are details I might have missed. Still I am equally interested if anyone has sought to tell the stories that I really really really wish could get told. More on that in a moment. Where do I find the goodies? Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogcreekwoods at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 15:25:58 2015 From: frogcreekwoods at gmail.com (FrogCreekWoods) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:25:58 -0500 Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <565B1906.6050509@gmail.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192847 While I haven't read this, it is supposed to be pretty good https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2548866.James_Potter_and_the_Hall_of_Elders_Crossing https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2548866.James_Potter_and_the_Hall_of_Elders_Crossing Ellie On 11/29/2015 9:31 AM, Sandra Lynn cresorchid at gmail.com mailto:cresorchid at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: Karens said: Hi again, Where does one find this [fan fiction], of quality I mean? I just finished the last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing all over again, smiles! Especially because I know there are details I might have missed. Still I am equally interested if anyone has sought to tell the stories that I really really really wish could get told. More on that in a moment. Where do I find the goodies? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miwahni at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 20:29:48 2015 From: miwahni at gmail.com (miwahni) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 06:29:48 +1000 Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? References: Message-ID: <2B4C453CE4C2430E85BBDDA482894A44@owner> No: HPFGUIDX 192848 Looking for good HP fic - you have to kiss a lot of toads before you find a prince. One quick way is to look for rec sites online - such as the now-defunct Crack Van - http://crack-van.livejournal.com/tag/harry%20potter - that's the Harry Potter tag for you. Scroll through the summaries until you find something that interests you re storyline. Rec sites are a brilliant way of cutting through the dross quickly. Another one to consider is the Crack Broom http://crack-broom.livejournal.com/ although it tends to be pairing-specific so might not be what you're looking for. Happy hunting! M Karens said: Hi again, Where does one find this [fan fiction], of quality I mean? I just finished the last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing all over again, smiles! Especially because I know there are details I might have missed. Still I am equally interested if anyone has sought to tell the stories that I really really really wish could get told. More on that in a moment. Where do I find the goodies? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klewellen at shellworld.net Sun Nov 29 17:13:55 2015 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:13:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192849 Hi again, You know? After I wrote this post I started seeing what I could find. I do not read fan fiction, so have no frame of reference. So I googled. Best quality Harry Potter fan fiction? And found old site posts referencing things. Before I tried the google I looked at fanfiction.net swiftly learning this might not be as rich as desired. Still that google produced the one and likely only one fan fiction work I am going to read, called Questions and Answers by little0bird. The work won some awards and the like, it's next gen. However why read fan fiction, when Rowling herself still fortifies the story? I mean checking my google news entertainment section, and there she is, it's sensational. A new play next year, Harry Potter and The Cursed Child. She wrote the screenplay for Fantastic Beasts which is in production. The person who wrote the Questions and Answers book clearly loves the characters, I will finish it if I can get the entire thing. Nothing like the source though, and Rowling has no equal on that front. Kare From ravenclaweric at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 13:19:57 2015 From: ravenclaweric at gmail.com (Eric Oppen) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:19:57 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192850 Archive Of Our Own has some fine fics. And so does Twisting the Hellmouth, although it's originally a Buffy-centric site. On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net [HPforGrownups] wrote: > Hi again, You know? After I wrote this post I started seeing what I could > find. I do not read fan fiction, so have no frame of reference. So I > googled. Best quality Harry Potter fan fiction? And found old site posts > referencing things. Before I tried the google I looked at fanfiction.net > swiftly learning this might not be as rich as desired. Still that google > produced the one and likely only one fan fiction work I am going to read, > called Questions and Answers by little0bird. The work won some awards and > the like, it's next gen. However why read fan fiction, when Rowling herself > still fortifies the story? I mean checking my google news entertainment > section, and there she is, it's sensational. A new play next year, Harry > Potter and The Cursed Child. She wrote the screenplay for Fantastic Beasts > which is in production. The person who wrote the Questions and Answers book > clearly loves the characters, I will finish it if I can get the entire > thing. Nothing like the source though, and Rowling has no equal on that > front. Kare > > > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: Karen Lewellen > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iam.kemper at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 14:32:57 2015 From: iam.kemper at gmail.com (iam.kemper at gmail.com) Date: 30 Nov 2015 06:32:57 -0800 Subject: hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192851 A woman I hot yoga with wrote some fanfic when she was going to college in the early aughts. Turns out it's one of the ones you should read before you die. Well, according to buzzfeed anyway. Hers is listed third on the listicle at the link: http://www.buzzfeed.com/annamenta/shut-up-theyre-so-in-love-i-cant-even Kemper From cresorchid at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 14:52:03 2015 From: cresorchid at gmail.com (Sandra Lynn) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:52:03 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No: HPFGUIDX 192852 Interesting, I've read quite a bit of HP fan fiction and most of these I had never heard of. If you want a good gen fic (2 in the series), I recommend Harry Potter and the Enemy Within and Harry Potter and the Chained Souls. I believe this is a 6th & 7th year set, but I loved it. Crescent On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:32 AM, iam.kemper at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] < HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > A woman I hot yoga with wrote some fanfic when she was going to college in > the early aughts. Turns out it's one of the ones you should read before you > die. Well, according to buzzfeed anyway. Hers is listed third on the > listicle at the link: > http://www.buzzfeed.com/annamenta/shut-up-theyre-so-in-love-i-cant-even > > Kemper > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bpmull at yahoo.com Mon Nov 30 10:45:20 2015 From: bpmull at yahoo.com (Bruce P Mull) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:45:20 +0200 Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <565C28C0.5020206@yahoo.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192853 The "Danger Universe" series The Psychic Serpent Trilogy Anything by old-crow, White Squirrel, Seel'vor, DobbyElflord, nonjon, little0bird or several others. This is just off the top of my head. On 2015-11-29 16:31, Sandra Lynn cresorchid at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: > Karens said: > > Hi again, Where does one find this [fan fiction], of quality I mean? I > just finished the last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing > all over again, smiles! Especially because I know there are details I > might have missed. Still I am equally interested if anyone has sought > to tell the stories that I really really really wish could get told. > More on that in a moment. Where do I find the goodies? > > That's a good question. There are tons of places to find good stuff, > but it's mixed in with mediocre to horrible writing. The best way to > find high quality fan fiction is to ask for recommendations from > people you know who read fan fiction and whose taste in reading > mirrors yours. > > If you don't know anyone who reads fanfiction, just ask around and > then see which stories recommended fit your tastes. You can then look > for other stories by those same authors or stories that the author likes. > > Crescent > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Karen Lewellen > klewellen at shellworld.net > [HPforGrownups] > wrote: > > Hi again, Where does one find this, of quality I mean? I just > finished the last book...and frankly want to read the whole thing > all over again, smiles! Especially because I know there are > details I might have missed. Still I am equally interested if > anyone has sought to tell the stories that I really really really > wish could get told. More on that in a moment. Where do I find the > goodies? Karen > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bpmull at yahoo.com Mon Nov 30 10:47:16 2015 From: bpmull at yahoo.com (Bruce P Mull) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:47:16 +0200 Subject: [HPforGrownups] hp fan fiction? In-Reply-To: <565B1906.6050509@gmail.com> References: <565B1906.6050509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <565C2934.6080309@yahoo.com> No: HPFGUIDX 192854 This isn't Harry Potter. It's Harry Potter's son James Sirius Potter. I have read it and it is pretty good. Bruce On 2015-11-29 17:25, FrogCreekWoods frogcreekwoods at gmail.com mailto:frogcreekwoods at gmail.com [HPforGrownups] wrote: While I haven't read this, it is supposed to be pretty good https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2548866.James_Potter_and_the_Hall_of_Elders_Crossing https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2548866.James_Potter_and_the_Hall_of_Elders_Crossing Ellie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From filipdautovic at yahoo.com Mon Nov 30 12:03:35 2015 From: filipdautovic at yahoo.com (filipdautovic at yahoo.com) Date: 30 Nov 2015 04:03:35 -0800 Subject: hp fan fiction? 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