On Sun, 31 December 2000, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> 
> Hi --
> 
> Kathleen Kelly MacMillan wrote:
> 
> > Okay, I don't understand how people can say that there is no evidence
> > that Hermione likes Ron back. What about the several times in GoF when
> > Hermione gets all annoyed at the attention Ron is paying to Fleur?
> 
> Hermione dislikes Fleur -- she dislikes Fleur even before Ron makes a
> prat out of himself trying to get Fleur's attention.  She was disdainful
> of the entire BeauxBatons bunch, but I think she was particularly
> critical of Fleur.  I think Hermione sees her as some sort of affront to
> women, and it doesn't seem to me that this dislike of Fleur has much to
> do with the attention that Ron is paying to Fleur so much as it is just
> a general dislike of Fleur as a person.  If Harry were fawning all over
> Fleur, Hermione would have been upset with him too (IMO).  Granted,
> Hermione probably is jealous of Fleur on some level, but I don't think
> it's connected to Ron necessarily.  I think Hermione views her as
> simpering & vapid, and yet she was talented enough to get chosen as the
> School Champion for Beaux Batons.  That probably irks Hermione more than
> anything, in my mind anyway.
> 
> > When they are leaving Hogwarts at the end of GoF, Fleur "smiled
> > at [Ron]; Hermione scowled" (GoF, UK ediiton, p.628).  That's a
> > SEMICOLON people; these things are related.
> 
> As I said above, she has strong disdain for Fleur as a person.  The fact
> that the two phrases are related by the semi-colon doesn't give you the
> definitive motivation for Hermione's scowl.  It could be what you think:
> Hermione is jealous because Fleur is paying attention to her
> (Hermione's) love interest.  Or, it could be what I think: Hermione's
> annoyed because she dislikes Fleur, and she doesn't want Fleur flirting
> even the slightest bit with one of her friends.  Or, it could be other
> motivations that are more complex or more simplistic.  Connection of two
> thoughts does not, however, yield an automatic black & white motivation.
> 
> The Kiss: I'm sticking with the teenagers on that one.  <g>
> 
> Penny

I'm with Penny all the way on the point of Hermione not liking Harry.  I also think that Hermione is annoyed a bit with Ron and him giving attention to Fleur when she is a champion and yet when she gave attention (but different attention, not like interest) to another of the champions (Krum) Ron got all mad at her.  Apart from the at the end where Fleur smiled at Ron, the only other attention that she gave to Ron was at the end of the 2nd task when she hugged BOTH Ron and Harry and here Hermione dissaproved and that could have tied in with the H/H evidence earlier increasing Hermione's dislike of Fleur therefor didn't want Fleur smiling at any of her guy friends for added reasons.
~Star~

(I'm a H/H shipper just to let everyone know.  Here are my full out feelings relationshipwise just to have it known:  
I feel that Ron is confused on his feelings toward Hermione.  She a close friend of his and is a girl so he might feel that she's a possibility for a girlfriend but hasn't sorted out if he has those type of feelings for her, or he could have a crush on her and just hasn't fully realized it himself, or Ron could be jealouse of Hermione's abilities and was extremely jealouse that she developed a rapport with his idiol explaining his outburst and as to over complaining about the things about Hermione that annoys him it could be his way to try and convience himself that Hermione isn't perfect so he shouldn't feel jealouse of her.
Moving on from Ron's feelings toward Hermione which could be a crush, i don't see any evidence of Hermione liking Ron back except for scowling when Fleur smiled at Ron at the end of the 4th book which could be explained otherwise as I said before.  I do see a lot of evidence that Hermione could have more feelings for Harry then she lets on such as how she, if having to choose, spends her time with Harry over Ron, pays more attention to Harry meaning that she talks directly to him more then she does to Ron (I know this is partly because everything has to do with Harry more then ROn but even when nothing 'special' is going on this still happens) and as Krum said, Hermione talks of Harry all the time and i would think that if HErmione talked about both Harry and Ron all the time Krum wouldn't have been so worried about Harry being competition.
Now to Harry's feelings, he hasn't developed other feelings for Hermione, yet. Harry has had his mind on other things and so far as only seen Hermione for the great friend she is and was busy with liking Cho.  I do think that with time Harry may begin to see Hermione in a new light.
Overall, when not thinking about who currently might like who, i feel that while either relationship could be brought about, one between Harry and Hermione would have the best chance of lasting due to the fact that Harry and Hermione get along better then Ron and Hermione and the best relationships often come from the best freindships.  Ron and Hermione would be constantly fighting even moer if they attempted a relationship beyond that of friends)


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