<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">moony wrote:</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Lily sacrificed herself in order to protect Harry. Because of this sacrifice Voldemort was unable to kill Harry, the AK curse rebounded and Voldemort's body was destroyed. Recently I realized that there is someone else who sacrificed himself to protect someone loved--I'm speaking of James. James sacrificed himself to protect Lily and Harry.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">What is the difference between James' sacrifice and the sacrifice of Lily (and in book seven Harry)? All three died to protect someone--they selflessly sacrificed themselves because of love, but only Lily's and Harry's sacrifice resulted in some sort of protection (Lily's sacrifice protected Harry and Harry's sacrifice protected the students and teachers in Hogwarts).</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Why? Where is the difference? There must have been others, too, that sacrificed themselves for their loved ones. Mothers like Lily that died to protect their children during the First Rise of Voldemort.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">How does this magic work and why can only some trigger the protection?</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Boris:</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">There was no explanation in the books besides what Dumbledoof said about "teh power of love", which is quite strange, since with the Shit Eaters killing and torturing all over the UK, there is bound to be some parent, who tried to save her/his children at the cost of her/his own life.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Boris Baran</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Skype: psycho_mantis87</span><a href="skype:psycho_mantis87" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">skype:psycho_mantis87</a><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Ceterum autem censeo 'Yahoo! neo' esse delendam.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I know that I know nothing.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Only a Sith deals in absolutes. </span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The cake is a lie.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Cast in the name of God, Ye (not) guilty.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction. You have no chance to survive make your time.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Dropbox fanfic copy folder:</span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zp4t4e1i0cabar6/mXs8gCsERj" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zp4t4e1i0cabar6/mXs8gCsERj</a><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zp4t4e1i0cabar6/mXs8gCsERj" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zp4t4e1i0cabar6/mXs8gCsERj</a><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Pat:</div><div><br></div>I thought that the difference in Harry’s case was that Dumbledore actually did a charm which sealed the protection onto Harry, as long as he abided by the terms of the charm (i.e. calling #4 Privet Drive his home, and spending a certain amount of time there each summer. But the actual protection, which was there because of Lily’s sacrifice, was because of DD’s charm. I’m sure that many parents did die protecting their children, but there actually was a complex set of requirements (Lily offering herself instead of Harry, Voldie accepting her offer but then also trying to kill Harry, and then the charm) that needed to be in place for the charm to work. As far as we know, there is no other case where all the requirements were met.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Pat</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>