[the_old_crowd] Names / keeping secrets
Randy Estes
estesrandy at estesrandy.yahoo.invalid
Wed Jul 2 04:10:00 UTC 2003
Predictions of things to come...
House Elves can blast wizards (such as Lucius Malfoy)
with the greatest of ease. Their power is natural but
mostly untapped due to their belief that they are
inferior to wizards. This is similar to the
personality of Neville Longbottom. He is going to be
a major character in books 6 and 7. House elves will
somehow finally get the message that the bad guys are
going to win if they don't help the good guys.
Dobby would not keep showing up in these books if
house elves are only there for comic relief. Dobby is
constantly helping Harry in each book. Dobby is
important because he will lead the "Second Great Elf
Rebellion" He is related to the Elf that led the
first one just like Tom Riddle is related to Slytherin
and Harry is related to Gryffindor.
Giants will return to battle in the future because
they are mentioned in Book 5. The puns that JKR keep
using are very interesting. I think this book has a
sleeping Giant and a lady who gets carried away. If
Voldemorte is analogous to Hitler as some have
suggested, and Dumbledore is analogous to Churchill.
Could the sleeping Giant be analogous to America in
World War II ?
Continuing this line of thought...Who represents the
Japanese and the Italians? I think the Centaurs might
be the Swiss who remain neutral and think they are
just above the whole thing...Or are the Goblins really
the Swiss because they control all the money...
Someone mentioned that the challenges that Harry faced
in Book One are analogous to the six books that follow
in the series. Could someone elaborate on this
because I have missing about the last 150,000 messages
on the HP4GUPs list due to interference from the
non-wizard world. I tend to read this post list
exclusively due to my lack of time on the internet.
Essentially, my wife has blocked my access to the
fireplace and stolen all of my portkeys of late.
I was reading Lord of the Rings to my son last year
and I saw the first two movies and remembered the
books that I read 30 years ago. I could see the
allusions to World War II throughout Lord of the
Rings. I also see the use of characters from LOTR in
JKR's masterpiece. Wormtail or Dobby could
be...Gollum. Harry is obviously Frodo and Ron is
Samwise. Lucius is Saruman (because he helps the Dark
Lord) and Sirius is Boromir (sp?) Dumbledore is
Gandalf and Hagrid is Gimli. Have I pissed anyone
off yet with all of the analogies? The bottom line is
that in the Lord of the Rings all of the races finally
unite to defeat the forces of Mordor. I am sure that
all of the races (Giants, elves, centaurs...) will get
together in Book 7 to defeat Voldemorte and his bad
guys in one big epic battle. The analogy to WWII
would be complete.
I just thought I would stir up the pot. I think every
great writer borrows from other great writers.
OK guys and gals.... Somebody let me have it! You all
have read these books 1500 times and I have only read
them twice. So teach me a lesson or two!! I double
dare you....;0)
Red Eye Randy
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> Thinking on names, I particularly liked Dolores Jane
> Umbridge, which has the
> same sort of nominative determinism as Remus Lupin:
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> Dolores is Spanish for pain/sorrow, umbrage (cf.
> Umbridge) means
> resentment/indignation. I suppose the Jane may be a
> reference to her plain
> speaking and plain appearance (from "plain Jane")
> and not the original
> meaning of "God's gracious gift".
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> In a moment of boredom, I also came across a note
> that Shacklebolt is an
> heraldic symbol for "victory in war".
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> I just spoke to a 'Dobby fan' friend of mine who has
> started OoP and who
> feels that there will be a House Elf uprising and
> that Voldemort will
> utilise the power of the House Elves in his evil
> campaign. Since he'd made
> me swear to give nothing away, all I could say was
> "there are House Elves in
> the book". It's going to take him ages to get to
> through it, as he's having
> it read to him as a bedtime story (how cute is
> that?) Looks like I'll be
> bursting to let information slip for months ahead.
>
> Neil
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