[the_old_crowd] Re: Essay on H/H in light of OoP (long, VERY long) (SHIP, mostly SHIP)

Randy Estes estesrandy at estesrandy.yahoo.invalid
Wed Sep 3 21:27:50 UTC 2003


Well obviously everyone has overlooked the possible
relationship between Harry and Neville's toad!

The toad never wished to stay with Neville.  He kept
running away perhaps looking  for a lasting
relationship with Harry.  

After all, Harry has a certain animal magnetism.  He
attracks, rats, basilisks, werewolves, hyppogryphs,
and wayward house elves.  How could the toad resist
Harry?

Of course the jealousy that Scabbers will feel once
the truth is out will be the denouement of the book
series relationship developments.  After all, Scabbers
would give his right arm for Harry.  He was also
infatuated with Harry's father.  Dobby might also
become jealous. Let's face it, Hermione doesn't stand
a chance against all of these suitors!


--- pippin_999 <foxmoth at ...> wrote:
> Captain Penny, valiantly struggling to keep her ship
> off the 
> shoals, (are we allowed to CARP around here?) said:
> 
> > I believe that OoP sets in motion a trend that had
> begun 
> developing in PoA and GoF: the trend of Harry and
> Hermione 
> becoming partners.  They are in effect equals in
> leadership 
> roles, and though Harry certainly remains the
> "hero," I think that 
> Hermione is increasingly filling the role of
> "heroine."<
> 
> Followed by an extremely well-argued post, detailing
> the  
> closeness of Harry and Hermione in eyestraining
> detail, to which 
> I can only reply with   Harry's own argument (all
> together now) 
> "Yeah, because we're *friends*" 
> 
> I will concede that Hermione takes the role of
> heroine in OOP. I 
> will even concede that by literary convention, this
> entitles her to 
> choose the hero of that book as her mate. Ah, but
> (you knew 
> there was going to be a but) who *is* the hero of
> OOP?
> 
> Harry may be the narrative focus and the central
> character in 
> OOP, but that doesn't make him a hero. His name is
> on the 
> cover, but if that makes him a hero then Gilderoy
> Lockhart is one 
> too. <g>
> 
> Harry didn't do one single thing to earn a hero's
> name in OOP. 
> Oh, wait, he saved his stupid cousin Dudley from the
> 
> Dementors. That was a brave and decent thing to
> do--except that 
> Dudley wouldn't have been in any danger from 
> Dementors if 
> Harry hadn't been with him, and Harry was only with
> him 
> because he wanted to give Dudley a hard time. That
> rather 
> tarnishes the accomplishment, IMO. Still, you have
> to give the 
> boy credit for it, and I do, but that happens on
> page 19 (of the US 
> edition.) For the subsequent 851 pages, Harry
> whines, sulks, 
> blows up at  people who are trying to help him,
> ignores 
> instructions, gets himself throw off the Quidditch
> team, leads his 
> friends into danger unnecessarily and generally does
> everything 
> *but* save the day. If this were Book One of the
> saga instead of 
> Book Five, you'd be hard put to say Harry was a hero
> at all. 
> 
> So is there somebody else filling the hero's role in
> Phoenix? 
> Someone who, following  an unexpected call to
> adventure, 
> struggles against obstacles and triumphs against the
> odds? 
> Someone who is crowned by success when it seems
> least 
> expected? 
> 
> Pippin
> exits humming "Weasley Is Our King"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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