Rewriting OoP; some gender & SHIP replies
pennylin
pennylin at plinsenmayer.yahoo.invalid
Sun Sep 7 21:59:06 UTC 2003
Hi --
Hoping this reply isn't too stale ------- I've been out of town. I like the idea of a fun rewrite of OoP and have no preference as to whether it's a few pages or a chapter at a time. Jim, the "dark and stormy night" opening belongs in Book 6 according to John Granger. For those of you who didn't see his talk at Nimbus on Alchemy & Doppelgangers, the hot, dry weather in the opening of OoP was in keeping with the alchemical stage of the 5th book, the "black stage" IIRC. Granger says to look for it to be cool and wet (rainy) on Privet Drive in the opening pages of Book 6 (as we move into the "white stage").
I said:
>> I fail to see how any reader could have expected Rowling to
do more with Hermione than she already has. What more could
she have done with Hermione's character than she has? As this
is indeed new information to me, I'm genuinely curious as to
what the arguments might be. <<
Pippin responded with:
<<<<<<<<Hmm...well, I defer to your knowledge of the fandom, but I
thought I detected, in the initial commentary after OOP, and from
what I've heard there was a similar reaction to GoF, a
disappointment that Hermione hadn't developed a passion for
something besides books and House Elves.>>>>>>>>
Well, I'll defer to your knowledge about what the fandom is saying post-OOP. I haven't been following HPfGU very closely at all. It's just that Rowling herself has proclaimed her belief that Hermione is a strong character and this comports with my own thoughts. And, almost all the scholars who have addressed the gender issue have concluded that Rowling's depiction of gender is positive and overall strong, most especially when evaluating Hermione and McGonagall. That one salon.com commentator .......Christine ??? who wrote the piece entitled "Harry's Girl Trouble" definitely had issues with Rowling's gender stance, but I could certainly have refuted all her points underlying her arguments. IOW, I don't think she had a strong position. Eliza Dresang's piece in the Ivory Tower book is much more on-point, IMHO.
Pippin:>
> <<<<<<Also you'll note that Harry left Hermione during the fight
> with the DE's. When she was unconscious and defenseless, it
> was Ron who stayed by her side, paralleling Book One where
> Hermione leaves Harry and goes back to tend the
unconscious
> Ron.>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
Me:
> You mean the Ron who was babbling nonsense because he
was being choked by the brains? Him? I don't know that he
*chose* to remain by Hermione so very much. <snip> <<<
Pippin: <<<<<Neville tells Harry that he thinks Ron is all right, that he was
still fighting the brain when Neville left. He later tells Lupin
again that Ron is all right. So Neville has left Ron alone to fight
off thebrain and defend the unconscious Hermione, and Ron,
despite being damaged, does so successfully.
When Harry chases Bella back through the Brain Room after
Sirius dies, he leaps over Luna, who is groaning on the floor,
Ginny,who, by the sound of it has just come to, Ron who giggles
feebly, and Hermione who is still unconscious. So at this point,
Ron has fought off the brain, apparently single handed and has
stayed with the unconscious Hermione all through the fight in the
Death Chamber.>>>>>>>>>>>
Well, er.......okay. But, isn't Ron also defending Ginny and Luna? It's not as though Ron and Hermione are alone, after all. I also just don't believe he made any conscious choices in this scenario either.
Penny
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