Redeeming Hagrid was Rewriting OotP
pippin_999
foxmoth at pippin_999.yahoo.invalid
Fri Sep 19 16:44:47 UTC 2003
I said:
> IMHO, in the end Harry will realize he can replace his father
only as he did in PoA; by taking his father's place. Harry must do
the things his father failed to do: accord with Snape, expose the
secret traitor and finally save his beloved from Voldemort.
(SHIPping Note: this is why I don't see H/H as a long
term possibility. It would be a waste of Hermione's heroic
potential for her to need Harry to rescue her from Lord V.)<
Barb:
>>Well, I'm not sure he needs to find accord with Snape as
much as Snape needs to stop visiting the sins of the father on
the son. If he hadn't done that to begin with, they probably
wouldn't have the adversarial relationship that they do. Harry has
been responding to Snape's patent unfairness all along. He's
lived with that all of his live, at the Dursleys, and perhaps he
thought he could escape it at Hogwarts. Just as Sirius needed
to see that Harry wasn't James, Snape needs to see that as well.
I don't really see that as Harry's problem but Snape's.<<
"At the sight of [Snape] Harry felt a great rush of hatred beyond
anything he felt toward Malfoy... Whatever Dumbledore said, he
would never forgive Snape...never..." --OOP ch.38
Snape basically has stopped seeing Harry as James, IMO. The
Occlumency lessons did that much good at least. Trouble is,
Harry can't bear to think that Sirius died because he, Harry, was
hoodwinked by Voldemort. Harry doesn't know how to forgive
himself for that and so he's displaced all his guilty feelings on to
Snape. As of the end of OOP, the undeserved hatred shoe is on
the other foot.
Barb:
>>Now, I would have thought exposing the secret traitor would
have been a priority before OotP, but that's when the purpose of
that would seem to have been to clear Sirius. As that is no
longer a concern (although he could be cleared posthumously, I
suppose), Peter must serve some other purpose. (I thought it
was weird that he was nowhere to be seen in OotP.) It seemed
that Dumbledore telling Harry that Peter is indebted to him was a
clear foreshadowing of Peter turning on Voldemort and doing
something to benefit the good guys. Does NO ONE else see
Peter redeeming himself? Probably only just before buying the
farm, yeah, but still. ;)<<
Yes! Yes! I didn't want to clutter my post with Evil!Lupin theory,
but yes, Peter will redeem himself. IMO, Peter was absent from
OOP because JKR isn't ready to reveal that he wasn't the chief
traitor to the Order.
Barb:
>>I also don't see Harry rescuing a damsel-in-distress from
Voldemort as part of the climactic conclusion (pun intended
<eg>) to the series. I sort of think he's already been there and
done that in CoS. At that stage, Ginny was young enough to be
truly helpless. At this point in the series, none of the possible
female candidates for Harry-counterparts are really frail and
helpless enough for this to ring true. The damsels have all
grown up and are forces to be reckoned with in their own right.<<
No, I don't think Ginny needs to reprise her fainting damsel
routine. But I wouldn't call Lily frail and helpless either. When
all else failed, Lily died in an act of passive resistance. That
scenario has to repeat itself so that Harry can do what James
did not and make such a sacrifice unnecessary. It would be a
waste of Hermione's long struggle to get to the point where she
doesn't freeze in battle (she's there!) and fights to win (erm, not
quite), to cast her in the passive resistance role at the end. As for
Luna, she is so strong in her acceptance already that for her to
be the one who accepts her death as the price of victory would
seem too pat.
Pippin
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