Never again
carolynwhite2
carolynwhite2 at carolynwhite2.yahoo.invalid
Thu Dec 2 23:01:20 UTC 2004
--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "nrenka" <nrenka at y...> wrote:
> --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "kneasy" <arrowsmithbt at b...>
> wrote:
>
> I do agree with Kneasy here (hear the sound of hell freezing
again?) that movie is almost always best thought of as a vision of a
book.
<snip>
> But Rowling's work, IMO, doesn't lend itself so nicely to that kind
> of poetic reimagination. It's too fundamentally about the
> storytelling--so if you botch that, you botch the real depths of
the thing.
<snip>
I doubt there's enough in the movie of originality and beauty,
enough space filled in by the visual aspects of the film (as music
does for the literature-operas), to redeem the failures to the spirit
of the original.
>
Carolyn, adding to the odd climatic conditions by not only responding
to, but tentatively agreeing with Nora <g>:
IMO, this is part of the problem, but it goes further. The movie
certainly mangles key plot elements, but it does so really badly
because of the audience it is aimed at. It's a kids's film, despite
Cuaron's track record. Sanitised, globalised, trivialised.
POA is many people's favourite book because it is where the adult
stories take off; the times that Shrieking Shack scene has been
picked over are beyond counting; the theories which have been built
around it; the gaps she leaves for the imagination to fill in...
It's not necessary to include every plot detail of a book in a film
adaptation, and any amount of artistic licence can be acceptable, as
long as the spirit is there, but that's what's missing, IMO. I had
stupidly hoped for an edgy, complex, more-or-less adult understanding
of the book, especially with actors like Gambon and Rickman involved,
but alas, no such luck.
Yes, of course, lots of the set details were good - so they should
be, on that budget - but they were just that, stage-sets, window-
dressing. Stuff like the big clock, the jazz track in the Boggart
scene, just tantalising glimpses of what Cuaron might have been able
to do with the movie, given a chance.
But, to my mind, this is all just part of the ruthless control-
freakery that extends to many areas of the HP franchise/fandom, and
to a certain extent may include JKR herself. There is a
determination, in short, that these will be clean, decent, simple
books about children growing up and nobly battling life's problems,
winning the good fight etc etc. Terrific role models, nicely-wrapped
packages of morality for use by parents and educators around the
world. The films are designed to fit slap bang into this world view,
not least in order to maximise sales.
However, witness many furious battles on HPfGU, a tiresome subset of
more robust adult minds find this interpretation not only boring and
insipid, but unconvincing. That's the group that are still waiting
for the grit, the uncertainty, the grey areas, the meaningful
characterisation, the wit, the resonance..all the trivial little
details that add up to a great film.
But, mustn't disappoint the kiddies, eh?
Carolyn
Assuming hell's getting back up to a nice rolling boil again.
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