Pet peeve #293
davewitley
dfrankiswork at davewitley.yahoo.invalid
Fri Apr 22 13:59:57 UTC 2005
SSSusan:
> This one drives me nuts whenever I see it. I never understand how
it gets phrased this way -- that the Sorting Hat *wanted* to put
Harry in Slytherin. In my reading, the SH offered up the
information that Harry would do WELL in Slytherin. It seemed to me
to be more of an invitation for Harry to consider where he wanted to
go, what mattered to him the most, perhaps even playing devil's
advocate. But I don't see that it *wanted* to put him there.
>
> **********************************************************
> "Difficult. Very difficult. Plenty of courage, I see. Not a bad
mind either. There's talent, oh my goodness, yes -- and a nice
thirst to prove yourself, now that's interesting.... So where shall
I put you?"
>
> Harry gripped the edges of the stool and thought, Not Slytherin,
not Slytherin.
>
> "Not Slytherin, eh?" said the small voice. "Are you sure? You
could be great, you know, it's all here in your head, and Slytherin
will help you on the way to greatness, no doubt about that -- no?
Well, if you're sure -- better be GRYFFINDOR!" [US hardback, p. 121]
> *****************************************************************
>
> If the SH "wanted" to put Harry into Slytherin, it sure gave up
awfully quickly & easily.
Yes, me too.
This episode reminds me of those incidents in the (Christian) Bible
where Jesus confronted sick people and asked them "Do you *want* to
be well?" (Emphasis mine) or "What do you want me to do?" and make
me wonder about JKR's supposed Christian influences.
Long ago, Porphyria posted an essay on HPFGU about the parallels
between Snape and 'the satan' of the Book of Job, and in passing
posed the question as to which figure in the books most parallels
God. My own answer to that question is the Hat.
I have never been able to articulate this answer fully, because to
do so requires getting specific about God, and I saw that getting
drowned in a welter of "*that's* not Christian, *this* is" claims
and counter-claims. (And of course Porphyria's essay was not even
Christian.)
That said, I see the dialogue between the Hat and Harry as having
some of the characteristics of dialogue between God and people
throughout the Bible, and most especially this use of questioning to
expose an inner decision.
The later dialogue in COS ("you *would* have done well in
Slytherin") I see as having in common with Jesus' use of gnomic and
mysterious sayings to make people question harder in their search
for meaning.
The statement in OOP about the need for unity confirmed my view,
with the Hat setting ethical guidelines that are essential for
ultimate victory.
And, to address a point of Kneasy's, the Hat appears in the chamber
because God's response to faith (Harry's statement about 'he's not
as gone as you might think' is blatantly signalled as such, IMO) is
to provide himself as the essence, as well as things (Fawkes, sword)
as the accidents, of the answer. IIRC, the sword appears when
Harry 'prays' for help to the Hat.
(On a bit of a tangent, I see a link between the chamber, with its
statue, snake, spirit-filled book, special headgear, winged
creature, and spilt ink, and the Holy of Holies with its cherubim
(who had wings), snake-on-a-pole, Torah, priestly clothing and blood
sacrifice. Ginny, of course, is Israel, for whose sake the
sacrifice is made. IMO.)
David
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