Snape's Remorse: another erratum
bluesqueak
pip at bluesqueak.yahoo.invalid
Fri Aug 12 11:04:59 UTC 2005
Eloise wrote:
> Just realised that I used the totally non-sensical term "British
> Law" which betrays my lack of expertise on the subject. ;-) I
> still believe Snape could have been directly accused of attempted
> murder, however, whatever the circumstances.
>
> I think this from Pip very interesting:
>
> >>The term is 'ruse de guerre', and it's legitimate in law. The
> killing someone who is already dying is a case of 'novus actus
> interveniens' - did Snape's act break the chain of causation? If
> there's a reasonable probability Dumbledore was already dying, and
> had reached the point where nothing could save him, then - it
> didn't. And thus it was not murder.<<
>
Eloise:
> It's a case of circumstances altering cases, as if you
> intentionally kill someone you know is dying and cannot be helped
> in other circumstances (eg terminal illness) it is still murder.
Pip!Squeak:
That, I *think*, is different. I'm only a poor little actor; I play
lawyers but I'm certainly *not* one - but from 'Judge' Hall's crash
course on trying Snape, I think that killing someone who is
otherwise dying from natural causes is to 'break the chain of
causation'. The cause of death in these cases *should have been*
natural causes. By intervening, you have changed the cause of
death.
OTOH, if somebody has been previously wounded, then quoting from
http://www.sixthform.info/law/02_cases/mod4/murder/13_1_actus_of_murd
er.htm
Smith, R v [1959] CMAC
"If at the time of death the original wound is still an operating
cause and a substantial cause, then death can be said to be a result
of the wound albeit that some other cause is also operating."
The fun case of White, R v [1910] CA
"D put cyanide into his mother's lemonade drink, but she died of
heart failure before the poison could kill her. The answer to the
question 'But for what the defendant did would she have died?'
is 'No'. She would have died anyway."
As you correctly point out, D was aquitted of murder, on the grounds
his mother was dying and did die of natural causes, but was found
guilty of attempted murder for giving her cyanide.
However, the ruse de guerre defence we used was also a defence
against attempted murder; to quote from the Law Lord Viscount Sankey:
"If, at the end of and on the whole of the case, there is a
reasonable doubt, created by the evidence given by either the
prosecution or the prisoner, as to whether the prisoner killed the
deceased with a malicious intention, the prosecution has not made
out the case and the prisoner is entitled to an acquittal. No matter
what the charge or where the trial, the principle that the
prosecution must prove the guilt of the prisoner is part of the
common law of England and no attempt to whittle it down can be
entertained. When dealing with a murder case the Crown must prove
(a) death as the result of a voluntary act of the accused and (b)
malice of the accused."
So - there is reasonable doubt that Snape's intervention was the
actual cause of Dumbledore's death (that's point (a) ) and, thanks
to the ruse de guerre possibility, there is also a reasonable doubt
that he acted with malice towards Dumbledore (that's point (b) ).
Acquittal on murder, acquittal on attempted murder.
You then move onto manslaughter, but there again, the doubt that it
was Snape's act which *really* killed Dumbledore comes into play. If
it 'wus the potion, m'lud', then manslaughter's out as well.
Pip!Squeak
"Where do you think I would have been all these years, if I had not
known how to act?" - Severus Snape.
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