The Potions Book WAS Re: Stupid question about Horscrux!Harry

Lyn J. Mangiameli kumayama at kumayama.yahoo.invalid
Wed Aug 17 17:10:38 UTC 2005


--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "bluesqueak" <pip at e...> wrote:
> Lyn wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It is very interesting that Snape was the same age as Lilly,  
> > likely was in the same Potions classes, and surely was taught by 
> > the same teacher (Slughorn) yet Lilly is discussed in isolation as 
> > the outstanding Potions student, even though we know the Snape is 
> > a  potionsmaster in far more than title. 
> 
> Pip!Squeak
> That's in character for Slughorn though. Firstly, he's trying to 
> butter up Harry - and telling Harry of his mother's brilliance at 
> this subject was one way to do it. Secondly, Snape is the teacher 
> he's replaced, and *no* teacher is going to hint to a class that 
> their previous teacher was a brilliant genius. 

Lyn now:
Yes, good points about Slughorn's nature. Still, if Snape was indeed functioning so far 
ahead of the class, it would seem a little harder for a "mudblood" to have distinguished 
herself so greatly in Slughorn's eyes.
> 
> Lyn:
> > That of course wouldn't preclude that Lilly was the source and 
> > Snape was the scribe. It is even possible that they collaborated 
> > on many of the "recipes" but Snape was the one who documented them 
> > (of course, wouldn't it be interesting to find Lilly's old 
> > Potion's book). Which makes me wonder as we write this, if Harry 
> > will come to find any of his parent's old books.
> 
> Pip!Squeak:
> There's a problem with Snape and Lily collaborating on *Advanced* 
> potions, though. In the Snape's Worst Memory chapter, the scene 
> where he calls her 'mudblood' is during the *OWLS*.
> 
> Unless Snape did a profound, sincere, and most-unlike-what-we've-
> seen-of-Snape-to-date apology, Lily's rather unlikely to have been 
> working with him. She's much more likely to have been considering 
> using him as an advanced sample tester.
> 
> Of course, that may have been where he learned about the bezoar...
> 

Lyn Now:
I remain, on this issue as well as others, very cautious about drawing conclusions from 
that tiny fragment of history presented to us. There are so many reasons to find Snape 
actiing deceptively there, just as he has elsewhere. He may have been wanting to keep Lilly 
out of the battle, perhaps even wanting to make sure their association would not be 
recognized. Not saying this is the case, but I think the "memory" gives us too little 
information to infer much of what when on before and after with respect to Lilly. For as 
you aways end----

> Pip!Squeak
> "Where do you think I would have been all these years, if I had not 
> known how to act?" - Severus Snape







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