Possible flint from OotP?

pippin_999 foxmoth at pippin_999.yahoo.invalid
Wed Aug 24 17:23:33 UTC 2005


Waldo:
Dumbledore to Harry: "... He saw himself in you before
> he had ever seen you, and in marking you with that
> scar, he did not kill you, as he intended, but gave
> you powers, and a future, which have fitted you to
> escape him not once, *but four times* so far --
> something that neither your parents, nor Neville's
> parents, ever achieved." (OP37)
> 
> Now my question is this: Is it *four* or *five* times?
> 
> 
> Arguably, Harry escaped LV:
> 
> (1) in October, c1981 - Godric's Hollow
> (2) In the PS, when LV was sticking out of the back of
> Quirrell's head and demanding that Quirrell kill
> Harry. Seems to me that would count as facing LV and
> escaping - Hey, for that matter he also faced LV and
> escaped while in the dark forest. 
> (3) CoS: Does LV not attempt to kill Harry with the
> basilisk? Doesn't Harry escape? 
> (4) GoF - graveyard scene: I'd say this one counts for
> sure, no?
> (5) OotP - DoM scene: The speech from DD occurs after
> this scene. 
> 
> Thus, it seems to me that DD would have been more
> accurate in saying that Harry had faced LV and escaped
> 5 or 6 times.  I do apologize if this is old, old
> news. 


Pippin:
I think it's only the Godric's Hollow escape that counts in 
Book One. The other two times, Harry did not defeat Voldemort
by his own power. He was rescued, first by Firenze and then
by Dumbledore himself. 

Pippin






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