[the_old_crowd] Re: Got a question...

[silmariel]

El Vie 02 Dic 2005 11:52, Barry Arrowsmith escribió:
> --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, silmariel <silmariel at t...> wrote:
> > As soon as I had the question in mind, I knew this was the group for
> > it... it's derived from my little obsession about Snape's patronus, and
> > death in general, this year.
>
> Interesting.
> If ole Sevvy has a Thestral as Patronus then - yes, it fits in neatly with
> Blackwidower Theory - those he saw die (at Voldy's instigation if not
> directly by Voldy's hand) being Snape's own wife and son.
>

Wouldn't it be nice that when Remus enlightened us with the possibility of a 
changing Patronus, he was speaking about Snape? You know I'm in the 
Blackwidower camp.

> Mind you, I can see a few Billywigs in the unguent.
> For a start we assume that the form of Patronus is decided more or
> less from the time of character development or even earlier. Unless
> the poor bugger has had at least one childhood episode watching
> somebody die -  well, when he/she gets around to learning how to
> produce one they'll never know that they succeeded - it'll be invisible.
> Frustrating or what? 

Ups.

The thing is, I don't know if it is a bad translation but I've opened FBAWTFT 
(Spanish version, I mean) and it states (in the winged horses section) that 
thestrals are able to make themselves invisible, not exactly that they are 
invisible till certain requirements are met. It maybe an incorrect 
translation, it maybe a flint, but I understand there is a small window 
opened for them being visible -if they happen to want to- so you *might* be 
able to see your own patronus.

But it may be invisible. Frustrating, quite. You may end having to learn how 
it feels producing it correctly... a liability that forces you to develop and 
rely on resources the average wizard doesn't even consider. An interesting 
duelist, I suposse, but overdoing Snape -he already has enough power.

<snips hilarious scene, hoping some of the examiners are able to see it and 
they are not sleeping at that moment>

> Secondly - can Dementors 'see'  a Threstral - real or Patronic?
> If they  can't - well, there ain't much point in having one.
>

I considered this, but I don't find reasons for Dementors not seeing 
Threstrals. Nothing can be more aware of death than a Dementor. Actually I 
think it's a kind of joke to consider that the Dementor's Kiss is not direct 
killing, it's like, they were made of that material. 

> Additionally herself has restricted Patronic forms to real, non-magical
> beasties - so far at least. Oh, most fans suspect, probably correctly, that
> DD  has a  Phoenix Pat, but it's never actually been spelled out, and he
> could be a special case. 

Another ups. That I simply assumed from the white tomb. I also assumed that he 
was a special case, but the point is, Snape is special. 

> Everyone else seems to be stuck with boring
> old stags, otters, hamsters and the like. If magical beasts were allowed
> a dragon form would be a fun thing to play around with, or even having
> your own pet Dementor Patronus - just so long as it didn't go feral and
> join it's pals in making your life a misery.
> Yup. If Marvin the Paranoid Android has a Patronus, it's a Dementor.

Honestly I prefer a dragon - but I had to toy with Thestrals, they suit Snape 
so much. Of course, I wanted it a black dragon, but they come in silver.

I've just found this one, who has black in the name:

Hebridean Black - wings similar to that of a bat - feeds mostly on stags - 
ocasionally hunts big dogs *cough**cough**cough* 

Bip. A dementor is not listed a beast. Pity that a boggart isn't or we could 
end in Ridikkulus.

Silmariel