[the_old_crowd] Dragons, Produced and Tickled, and Other Pleasantries
silmariel
silmariel at a_silmariel.yahoo.invalid
Sat Dec 17 10:21:06 UTC 2005
> Kneasy:
> > Because DD is a Legilimans. (He didn't teach Harry himself because he
> > he thought it better to distance himself from Harry, not because he
> > couldn't. Occlumency and Legilimancy are two sides of the same coin, it's
> > not possible to teach how to guard the mind properly unless you can also
> > intrude to see if attacks are blocked.)
> > So even if he didn't know the situation before the event, he'd certainly
> > ferret it out in the questioning afterwards.
>
> Pippin:
> Lupin appears to be a natural occlumens. "Don't ask me to fathom the way
> a werewolf's mind works" and "An odd, closed expression appeared on
> Lupin's face." Adult Lupin is able to conceal that he's hiding something
> from Dumbledore all year.
Could you explain? A natural as a metamorphomagus or a natural as Draco? I can
buy the second. Someone had to teach him and could do so in a short period. I
can also buy that no one can read a transformed werewolf mind because there's
no human mind there. Or are you suggesting that every werewolf is a natural
occlumens? 'Cause Fenrir doesn't strike as one.
My point is we haven't seen Snape giving a break to Sirius or James, but he
apparently has not much of a conflict regarding Remus, so maybe Snape's
grudge was transferred almost entirely to purebloods that in this case used a
halfbreed (or whatever was the insult on vogue those days) in a totally
unrespectful way, I mean, they were his 'friends' and they didn't stop to
think that if he was caught, he had no future in the WW. Talk of love.
So both 'tainted' bloods had the joke on them, that's something I think DD had
clear and young Snape could (as opposed to surely) understand and relate to.
Was Occlumency something DD thought necessary for Lupin to survive out school?
Was it the reward Snape obtained for his silence (how appropiate)?
>As for Sirius and James, the dementors couldn't tell from Sirius's thoughts
>that he was an animagus, so it can't be obvious to the enquiring mind.
Not previous to the incident, but after that and competing with DD, they were
sold, assuming they were standard (not Occlumency experts) students, they're
sold, imo. Even if you have a lot of memories to guard, the 'I've just near
killed a schoolfellow' should be on top for a long time. Either that or that
James changed as a result of the Prank is rubbish, that of course, may be.
Silmariel
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