[the_old_crowd] Re: Dragons, Produced and Tickled, and Other Pleasantries

[Randy Estes]

Questioning the motives of the Wise Old Wizard? How
dare you!;0)
It sounds like you guys are spending far too much time
paying attention to "the man behind the curtain".  

Let's just drop a  big house on top of Voldemort and
be done with it!  Or perhaps if Hermione just throws a
bucket of water on Voldy and melts him.

OOEEEEEO  OOOOOOOOOOO OOOEEEEEO OOOOOOOOOO

By the way, I don't think Dumbledore is dead.  He just
transformed back into Neville's toad and scampered
off.

My prediction for  book seven :

Neville Longbottom will have to take a stand against
his friends and prevent Harry from killing someone. 
Otherwise Harry will become the monster that Voldemort
already is.  Neville's act of heroism will be the act
that saves to day.  Neville's toad then turns back
into Dumbledore and yells "well done Neville, well
done!"

Then Hermione, Harry, Ron, Neville, Ginny, and the
rest of the cast wrap arms around each others backs
and start doing high kicks while singing..."The sun
will come out tomorrow...Bet your Goblin's galleons
that tomorrow...We'll Be Fine!"

After which, a giant foot comes down on top of them
all and squashes them..... A voice then says...."And
now for something completely different...."  We then
are portkeyed to a group of dancing llamas.  The film
breaks and the lights in the theatre go on.....

Red Eye Randy




--- Barry Arrowsmith <arrowsmithbt at ...>
wrote:

> --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999"
> <foxmoth at q...> wrote:
> >
> > The BoG, the staff and the Ministry know about
> Slytherin's little pet, the
> > parents, the kiddies and the Daily Prophet remain
> clueless. Myrtle's death
> > is hushed up, the kids don't know why Hagrid was
> expelled and the
> > same situation seems to obtain when the serpent
> returns. We're dealing
> > with a people schooled in secrecy from childhood,
> after all.
> > 
> 
> That's what we're supposed to believe, yes. The
> needs of the plot
> over-riding commonsense reasoning, in all
> probablity.
> 
> DD runs Hogwarts School of Mayhem and Misdirection
> more or less as
> he wishes, otherwise logically the damn place would
> be closed half the time.
> Apparently DD doesn't keep parents informed, except
> maybe in an 
> end-of-year report - 
> "Little Agrippa has done very well in Herbology and
> Charms, though he 
> needs to work on his athletic prowess, as was
> demonstrated by his 
> inability to run fast enough to get away during the
> unfortunate outbreak 
> of death-dealing monsters that caused a hiccup
> earlier in the year. You
> may well have noticed that he didn't write home for
> a while.
> Fortunately his petrification was reversed after
> only a few weeks and he 
> soon caught up with the rest of his year - though
> I'd strongly advise that
> you avoid the word 'serpent' for the time being -
> he's liable to become 
> hysterical."
> 
> We are also expected to accept that the kids never
> bother to mention such
> events in their owls to their families.
> OK. It helps the plot progress, but it'd be great
> fun watching the oleaginous
> DD scrambling down corridors to escape the wrath of
> pissed-off parents
> waving wands.
>  
> > The staff and the Ministry know about Lupin's
> return (and one would 
> > assume there's overlap between the Ministry and
> the Board). Again the 
> > kiddies, parents and Prophet are out of the loop,
> Malfoy having 
> > conveniently resigned prior to Lupin's return. I
> suspect  most board members
> > are too old to have kids in school. It is somewhat
> tutworthy canon, as there
> > could be a different setup for Lupin's initial
> sojourn chez Hogwarts, 
> > but it would seem sloppy and a waste of all that
> exposition.
> > 
> > Lupin appears to be a natural occlumens. "Don't
> ask me to fathom the way 
> > a werewolf's mind works" and "An odd, closed
> expression appeared on 
> > Lupin's face." Adult Lupin is able to conceal that
> he's hiding something
> > from Dumbledore all year.
> > 
> 
> There's sloppy plotting dotted all over the place -
> the glaring discrepancy of
> Lupin's transformations during Shrieking Shacks I &
> II having caused rumbles
> in the past. 
> 
> Dementors don't give a toss whether one is an
> Animagus or not because
> the mind is the same in both. And it's the mind they
> concentrate on - another
> discrepancy that surfaced in the Sirius sub-plot.
> 
> As for DD and his whimsical asides - more deliberate
> misinformation or
> misdirection IMO. The only times he's ever given
> half-way useful info
> is during the traditional end-of-book exposition,
> and even then it pays
> to concentrate on what he doesn't say or to look for
> alternative meanings
> in what he does say. 
> 
> See, we all know that you're of the opinion that
> Lupin is to blame for more
> or less everything since Attila the Hun was a lad
> and you don't believe a word
> he says. Fine. No problem. But it looks as if your
> enthusiasm is running away 
> with you when you start accepting that DD is a fount
> of veracity. A more 
> secretive, devious, sneaky, manipulative old fixer
> than any that has stalked 
> the pages of fiction for many a year. He may well be
> on the good side but
> that doesn't mean he sticks to the Boy Scout Code.
> He most definitely doesn't.
> Don't trust any of 'em, is my motto. They're all
> lying, prevaricating or covering
> up for one reason or another - though it may not be
> because they're evil -
> just weak, ashamed, embarrassed or even protective
> would do it for most. 
> 
> There's a political interviewer in the UK - in fact
> he did an interview with Jo
> just before OoP - Paxman. That was a friendly one,
> but his usual style is very
> different. He's said that when questioning politicos
> the thought uppermost
> in his mind is "Why is this bastard lying to me?" A
> decent guideline when
> tackling the HP books IMO.
> 
> > As for Sirius and James, the dementors couldn't
> tell from Sirius's thoughts 
> > that he was an animagus, so it  can't be obvious
> to the enquiring mind. 
> > Besides which, the werewolf outings were only a
> small part of their careers
> > of mischief and rule-breaking. Prodding Sirius or
> James for guilty feelings 
> > would have unleashed years of recollections, only
> a few of which would 
> > have to do with the monthly outings. No reason for
> Dumbledore to zero 
> > in on those if he didn't know what he was looking
> for.
> > 
> > If Sirius and James weren't questioned about queer
> > goings on in Hogsmeade or the forest, they didn't
> have to lie. They wouldn't
> > have gone to the willow *that* month, because they
> knew Snape had 
> > seen Madame Pomfrey taking Lupin to it and would
> be watching it from
> > now on. That's why something had to be done, IMO.
> Lupin knew that 
> > James and Sirius were too reckless to be put off
> for long.
> > 
> 
> All DD need do is ask Snape what happened in the
> tunnel. Then ask Sirius
> and James for their versions. Memories associated
> with Werewolf!Lupin
> would then flood to the surface of their thoughts -
> including the things
> that they most definitely don't want DD to know
> about. "Mustn't mention
> the Animagus outings, mustn't mention why we're so
> familiar with getting
> past the Whomping Willow" would stand out like a
> beacon, I'd expect. If
> nothing else, he'd detect lies - an attribute he's
> boasted about to Harry.
> 
> Kneasy
> 
> 
> 
> 


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