[the_old_crowd] Ginny hexes / kinds of bigotry / what DD remembered / Harry's Cloak ... ...

[silmariel]

Rita:
> Like Lily Evans accused fifth-year James of hexing anyone who annoyed
> him just because he can? Is part of Ginny being perfect for Harry that
> she resembles his *father*?
>

That explains it nicely, I just couldn't see her as the likes of Lily however 
equal they apparently are in the surface, but as James, perfectly.

> Kneasy wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/3513 :
>
> <<  "My memory is as good as it ever was, Severus."
>
> This could have multiples of meaning:
> a) No, I haven't forgotten that they did try to kill you,
> b) No, I haven't forgotten that you believe they tried to kill you,
> or, and this one is a bit twistier
> c) No, I haven't forgotten what happened, nor that there was no
> punishment meted out, nor that you agreed not to stir up
> trouble, nor that I owe you big time because of it. >>
>
Rita:
> Or, d) I also remember that you participated in killings with your
> Death Eaters buddies (at the age of 19), and that you would be in
> Azkaban for it if I hadn't spoken for you.

d) Rephrased: I also remember I'm the only person that has believed you/in 
you. (Let's put parents aside)

Let's face it, he's not a character easy to trust, he's no Hagrid. We'd eat 
any word of Hagrid as not being insincere. Incorrect, biased, maybe, but 
never to doubt him, only his knowledge/sense.

Fudge ignoring the Dark Mark when he showed it amounts to a Minister ignoring 
this former member of the terrorist cupula that is telling they are back and 
is showing you a document sent by them. Quite frustrating and possibly his 
everyday expected reaction when he tells the truth.

If the truth he was trying to tell was 'however unlikely it may seem, I want 
to change sides', it probably compensated for c)

I like the idea that the other important moment when he was not believed was 
when he tried to warn the James that one of his "they would die for me" 
friends was a traitor.

Anne:
<<In PS/SS he used it to take Norbert up the tower to
Charlie's friends and then *forgot* it, for heaven's sake, when he
came back down. In PoA, while using it for selfish reasons, he found
that it only worked if it didn't accidentally slip off, and had to
abandon it in the tunnel until Hermione went and got it for him.
Shortly after which, he abandoned it under a tree for one of his worst
enemies (so he thought) to use against him.>>

That bothered me a lot, at first, but after a while I assimilated it to 
Anakin's habit of dropping lightsabers, a recurring joke. It's the kind of 
thing that makes me think 'for heaven's sake', yes, but I've never known if 
it was only me, it also freaks me when they leave an open door in films 
unless it is very stated from the start that the scenario is the kind of 
community where no one needs to bother if it's open or not.

I'm more reconciled with Harry now that I can speak more or less freely about 
him. I don't have a problem with him as a normal youngster, someone we can 
study and find some faults and some highlights, even can like him, but I 
really went to the point of almost disliking the character on TOL, because of 
the hard core of Harry apologists that treat him as what I have to call 
'Saint Potter'. Icks.

Pippin:
<<who agrees with Rita that there have been many non-racial
rallying cries in RL. Like  "Kill the witches!">>

I toyed with an Artist society where the motto was "Kill the dull!". The 
artistically speaking dull, I mean, I don't know a word for it in English.

SSSusan and Kneasy in... too many posts last week, sorry :-P I've lost track 
of them:

> SSSusan:
> Heh heh.  I suggest putting this out on TOL and seeing what happens.  Talk 
about 
people Taking Things Seriously.  I'm sick to death of the discussions of who's 
a child 
abuser and who's not, what constitutes abuse, how culpable was DD in Harry's 
abuse, and 
all of that.  I prefer the straightforward statement that "he's a 
pragmatist... it didn't stop 
him from forging Weapon!Harry" and the final statement of yours I quoted.  
It's the truth, 
and it's the way it is, and I wish there'd stop being so much *judgment* of it 
Over There.
> 

Kneasy:
<<Feel free to transfer any bits you wish - I'll not post over there as a 
matter of principle, but I've no objection to being quoted. And with luck it 
could upset one or two of the more precious variety of poster.>>

I've read (well, half, I got bored) the 
http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/home.php?page=docs/interviews that appeared 
referenced in a post on TOL, and amongst other things the author appears to 
be a little freaked out with the 'vampire' clues. Maybe is time to transfer 
certain Dragon to TOL?

Randy on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/3538

<<You can decide who sings which line. I prefer "Ms Rowling makes me
laugh">>

I like "How do you find the words to tell Ms. Rowling?"

I don't usually know the songs inspiring Filks. Loved it. You've actually made 
me sing.

Silmariel