Lupin / Mary Sue / Gary Stu / Bloody Ending / (not Ragnarok)

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at catlady_de_los_angeles.yahoo.invalid
Sat Dec 31 22:11:55 UTC 2005


Pippin wroter in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/3579 :

<< If he doesn't get over his passivity, he'll be unable to lead the
werewolves, and if he does, he'll be a complete Gary Stu. >>

So? JKR has shown no sign of trying to avoid Mary SUes -- Hermione's
beautifu appearance at the Yule Ball in GoF, Ginny in OoP being a GOOD
Seeker who'd rather be a Chaser (!) and Ginny in HBP being a Third
Twin, Lily in the Pensieve incident...

Nora sig'ged in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/3580 :

<< Nora finds 'complete Gary Stu' to usually show up as Harry in
fanboy fics, who has both a harem and massive super powerz  >>

There IS canon basis for both -- enough girls WANT him (e.g. ROmilda
Vane) that he could have a harem if he wanted to (even with my belief
that the girls who asked him to accompany him to the Yule Ball were
only interested in starting the Ball with a Triwizard Champion, not in
Harry) and he does have unusual powers like throwing off the Imperius
Curse with only a few minutes of practise, and making a corporeal
Patronus in third year.

Randy wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/3589 :

<<  Harry must somehow defeat Bellatrix. Perhaps Narcissa kills
Bellatrix to redeem herself (perhaps after Lucius or Draco dies).
Neville has to finally mature and kill somebody or else be killed
because we cannot leave him half-grown up. >>

It seems to be generally believed that Neville will kill Bellatrix. If
it is necessary to kill some human to be grown-up, I expect never to
be grown-up. 

I like a scenario in which Harry does something stupid and Snape dies
saving Harry's life from the consequences at Voldemort's hands, Harry
tries to refuse to escape without Snape, and Snape gets some nasty
sarcastic last words telling Harry to get away because Harry is the
only one who can kill VOldemort, which is a goal important enough to
Snape that he's willing to die for it, but not to spend another minute
enduring Harry's insufferable company. Harry saves Neville's life
(maybe, bitterly, by killing Bellatrix when she has Neville at her
mercy in a duel) and then Neville saves Harry's life AND kills
Voldemort, maybe by flinging himself upon Voldemort (and knocking both
of them through that Veil or into another convenient magical
death-trap) when Voldemort has Harry at his mercy in THEIR duel.

<< PS I know that everyone will ignore all of my comments like usual
and wait for some other post by a more respected member of the OC. >>

Maybe more people would read to the ends of your posts if they didn't
have to scroll through so much quoted material first.







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