OT chatter from a child of a lesser god ( I suppose)

Randy Estes estesrandy at estesrandy.yahoo.invalid
Wed Feb 16 03:44:40 UTC 2005


Was Lilly already a most unwanted
> competitor for Jame's 
> > attention?

Oh my god!

Are you saying that Lilly is the Yoko Ono of the
Marauders?

Peter must be Ringo.  I guess Lupin is George?

Perhaps the Malfoys represent the Eastman family.

Just trying to return to earth with a little laughter
after launching into the 8th dimension reading some of
these posts!

While I find reading some of these other longer posts
to be challenging after a long day of statistics
class, I tend to spend more of my time inside the
upper and lower control limits.  I kind of like
looking at life a little closer to the mean.

Just think.  If I had not read the first book to my
son, I would not be reading these incredible literary
criticisms.  I just thought the plot twists were fun
to read and the characters were interesting.  I gave
it a 9 because it has a nice beat and I can dance to
it.

--- Barry Arrowsmith <arrowsmithbt at ...>
wrote:

> 
> --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "kumayama"
> <kumayama at e...> wrote:
> > 
> > This brings up an interesting (at least for me)
> consideration. What
> > did Peter think of James  and Lily having a child?
> If he remained so 
> > "star-struck" with James, or at least invested in 
> his relationship with
> >  James, what did he think of having to share
> Jame's attention with  
> > others. Was Lilly already a most unwanted
> competitor for Jame's 
> > attention? Recall the photo Moody shares with
> Harry in which Peter 
> > has positioned himself between James and  Lilly.
> Is this not faintly 
> > remiscent of how a child or dog will interject
> between two adults  
> > sharing affection. So what then might a Potter
> child represent to Peter?
> > Would not the child  draw yet more attention away
> from Peter, and 
> > would it not further cement the James-Lilly 
> relationship to the 
> > detriment of Peter? If Peter looked at it this way
> (and of course there
> > is no direct canon to indicate this) might he not
> actually be interested
> > in LV doing away with  the youngster, and perhaps
> even James as a 
> > result of him feeling slighted that the Jame's had
> diminished his 
> > attention towards Peter for his new role as
> parent.
> 
> 
> Um. The dynamics of all-male groups. 
> Enter a female who ensnares the leader, displacing
> all the others - his closest 
> friends.
> Resentments, jealousies - who knows what might have
> been unleashed.
> 
> The positionings in that photograph have been the
> subject of speculation
> in the past. Little agreement as to its significance
> though. Is he intruding
> between James and Lily? A would-be Iago? A devious
> destroyer, Uriah Heap
> style? Or are we reading it wrong?
> Perhaps the Potters are acting in a protective
> manner, one each side to
> give him feelings of security. No, didn't think
> you'd like that one.
> 
> Usually I work to the principle that I may be wrong
> but I'm not uncertain.
> Can't seem to get that to work with Peter, it's
> uncertainty all the way.
> 
> "You should have died [...] rather than betray your
> friends, as we would
> have done for you."
> 
> Somehow the idea of Sirius dying for Peter... er, I
> don't think so - or is 
> that my ESE!Sirius inclinations showing? James
> though, what would he
> sacrifice for Peter? A lot but not everything IMO,
> certainly not his family.
> And Peter wouldn't sacrifice himself to save James -
> let alone Lily or Harry.
> If - and that's a big if -  we believe the situation
> as described in PoA.
> 
> Before GH? Peter is so weak, ineffectual, that it
> wouldn't surprise me if
> he didn't see Harry as an opportunity to get closer
> and to get more attention
> from James. To use your dog metaphor, I can see him
> sitting by the cradle,
> wagging his tail. 
> That always pleases the parents. And the dog stays
> in the warm.
> 
> Not a great deal of help, I'm afraid. I just can't
> get a firm grip on Peter.
> There's something missing, or at least my instinct
> so insists.  What?
> Dunno.
> Frustrating.
> 
> Kneasy
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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