[the_old_crowd] Re: The Protection of the Prophecy Plot (Was: Themes and theories)

Magda Grantwich mgrantwich at mgrantwich.yahoo.invalid
Sun Feb 27 13:14:11 UTC 2005


> Pippin:
> Erm, if Dumbledore destroys the prophecy, then Voldemort has 
> no reason to delay going after Harry until he's heard it. Ditto if 
> Harry is told about the prophecy and Voldemort is able to learn it 
> through the mind link. 

Magda:
Obviously Harry should not have been told the contents of the
prophecy; Voldemort would have picked them up through the connection.

However, destroying the prophecy would have meant that there would no
longer be a risk of Harry falling into a trap by leaving the security
of Hogwarts - and despite Umbridge's presence, Hogwarts was secure
for Harry.  And after all the tacit encouragement and praise that
Dumbledore gave Harry for four books when he did take matters into
his own hands, Dumbledore should have considered the possibility that
Harry would do it again.

> Pippin: 
> If Harry had known about the prophecy, he might have known that 
> Voldemort might try to trick him into going to the Ministry. But it
> really wouldn't have mattered, because in the end what 
> Voldemort used to lure Harry was not the prophecy but Sirius, 
> and he could have pretended to have Sirius captive anywhere.

If Harry had known more about the mental connection - period - he
might have known that Voldemort might try to trick him into doing
anything at all.  That was a bit of knowledge that Harry had but that
was never put into a realistic context for him to grasp strongly.  

I'm not sure that Harry would have believed that Sirius was being
held captive somewhere else - the advantage of the MOM/DOM (from
Voldemort's POV) was that it was a place that Harry felt he was
familiar enough with to get to.  Had he seen an image of Sirius
somewhere else, he wouldn't have known how to get there.  I mean,
really, we haven't seen a lot of other WW locations, have we?  The
Leaky Cauldron, the Burrow, the stores in Diagon Alley - none would
have been credible as places to hold a captive.  Knockturn Alley -
Borgin's shop - better, yes, but would Harry have remembered them
from COS?  Privet Drive actually might have worked (assuming visions
of dead Dursleys) but Voldemort had no idea what it looked like and
couldn't have "beamed" an image to Harry's mind.

Not to mention that Voldemort had no idea which locations Harry was
familiar with or what they might look like in the present day (that
is, 60 years after Tom Riddle might have last seen them).

So I think the Sirius-as-hostage vision was only plausible in the
context of the MOM/DOM - and Voldemort knew it.

Magda 


		
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