Hedgecrumpets (spoilers, of course)

mooseming josturgess at mooseming.yahoo.invalid
Mon Jul 18 10:56:49 UTC 2005


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--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "dungrollin" 
<spotthedungbeetle at h...> wrote:
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> Completed a second leisurely read-through, and have some more 
> questions (and a couple of answers).
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> Ginger wrote:
> If one has Horcruxes made, and is killed, does the part of the soul
> > in that person die? Or does one of the Horcruxes empty itself of 
a
> > soul? In other words, when LV was killed at GH, did a part of his
> > soul that was in him die or one that was in a Horcrux? In either
> > case aren't we down to 6, unless he has made another to replace 
the
> > one he used then?
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> Dungrollin:
> I don't think it's a question of using them up like lives in a 
> videogame.  The principle is that a piece of your soul is hidden 
> elsewhere, outside your body, and that is what ties the piece of 
> your soul that *is* in your body to this world, and stops 
you 'going 
> on' when you get an AK in the face.  If anyone AKs Voldy again, 
> he'll be reduced to gas again, and it can happen as many times 
over 
> as you like, but it won't cause any damage to any of his 
> Whorecrushers, all of those bits of his soul are tied to this 
world 
> because they are separated from each other.
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> Pip wrote:
> > Hmmm... maybe it was the part of the soul that was killed at GH 
> went into Harry?
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> Dungrollin:
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> The Hoarsecrotchets:
> 1. The diary (done)
> 2. The ring (done)
> 3. The locket (at GP – good catch, Debbie)
> 4. Nagini (always knew she was in on it)
> 5. Hufflepuff's cup (what are those strange magic powers?)
> 6. Something of Ravenclaw's (wand? – good catch, Kneasy)
> 7. Voldy.
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<snip interesting suggestion re silver hands and such>
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> Dungrollin


I'm not at all convinced that those four remaining items have been 
correctly identified by DD. Repeatedly we are told he is guessing 
and that he does make mistakes. I'm actually sold on the locket, cup 
and wand but I think the Nagini option is unlikely. I'm fairly 
confident it will turn out to be a Gryffindor thing in the end.

If its an object from Hogwarts how could Voldy have nabbed it 
though? Well firstly in DD's memory of the teaching interview Harry 
notices Voldy doing something with his wand, is it possible that he 
could have initiated something then, or is that the DADA curse being 
placed? Secondly could Voldy have gained access to Hogwarts via 
Borgin and Burkes' cabinet? Do we know when the Hogwarts one was 
broken, or how it was broken?

On the other hand if DD is semi correct and the fourth HRX is a 
living being, who's the most typical  Gryffindor, one of the 
Weasleys perhaps, or Neville? Who's to say Voldy has even made the 
final HRX yet?
Placing the final HRX in a living Gryffindor would mean that Harry 
would have to sacrifice one of his own to defeat Voldy.

Now there's a nasty moral dilemma!
Regards
Jo

I may be as woefully wrong as Humphrey Belcher, who believed the 
time was ripe for a cheese cauldron.






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