Credit where credit is due....

mooseming josturgess at mooseming.yahoo.invalid
Wed Jul 20 16:47:09 UTC 2005


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--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, Barry Arrowsmith 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:

> 
> There dwells amongst us an astute theoriser, but he's of a 
modest   
> and retiring disposition. So he doesn't post his ideas on the 
boards  
> as often as he should.
> 
> Horseclucks. Not a plot device that very many fans would think of 
as  
> a plot device - but Lyn Mangiamelli did - or something as close 
as  
> makes no difference. Every so often he's kind enough to bounce 
ideas  
> into my mail-box and usually at least the essence of the idea gets 
a  
> mention (with appropriate credits) in a post of mine. I'm pretty 
sure  
> I mentioned this idea somewhere, but I'm damned if I can find it -
  
> it'll be some time towards the end of last year. If anybody can  
> locate it (almost certainly on HPfGU) please let me know.
> 
> Anyway, below is an extract from the relevant mail.
> Be impressed. I am.
> 
> Kneasy
> 
> 
>  >snip
> Though unlikely, I've been wondering for the last couple of months 
if
> part of the reason why DD was reluctant to take out LV was that 
there is
> that the corporeal LV is not the entire LV.  Perhaps the Riddle of 
the
> diary was not merely a memory, but an actual piece of LV. After 
all,
> diary Riddle seemed to need GW's "life force" in order to become
> corporeal  (and presumably a freely mobile agent). Doesn't this 
seem a
> little like the vanquished LV who needed other's "life force" to
> eventually be fully corporeal and thus fully powerful again.   So. 
what
> if part of LV#1's plan for immortality was to encapsulate portions 
of
> himself and distribute them in a number of locations, the diary 
being
> but one. Thus the events at GH were unable to entirely destroy 
him, as
> there were multiple pieces of him everywhere.
> 
> We have wondered why it is that he is so slow in making his moves, 
now
> that he has returned, and why he still seems so relatively weak. 
What if
> it is because he is still in the process of collecting his full 
powers
> (i.e., collecting the parts of himself), and it is taking time to
> acquire them from each hidden location (likely known only to him 
for
> what they are, just so no one else can access them).
> 
> What if HP's attempted possession was not only to acquire HP's 
powers,
> but perhaps to store some of his own away. Wouldn't it be a hoot 
if LV
> did not share some of his powers accidently, but rather 
deliberately.
> What a great strategy to first take over your intended nemesis, 
and then
> to fool everyone by using the newly possessed  nemesis as a place 
to
> store some of ones powers--in such a case, the intent would have 
never
> been to kill HP. Who would ever suspect. Of course things went 
awry, but
> perhaps not as much as others suspect. Might it be that HP finds 
diary
> Riddle so familiar, because he is an interrupted/incomplete second
> (fourth, fifth or sixth) version of diary Riddle.
>  >

Coo, well impressed, please pass on standing ovation when next in 
contact.

Also a laugh at my expense. I was thinking had I read this prior to 
HBP I would have said that there was insufficient foreshadowing to 
justify this idea in particular Voldy's own apparent uncertainty as 
to what he's done.  I would have argued that we'd have to have been 
tipped off by some references to Voldy's fondness for certain 
objects. Plus if there were multiple parts then it would stand to 
reason that one of Harry's tasks would be to hunt them down and 
there simply wasn't enough room in the last *two* books to add a 
quest of this magnitude. Ha Ha. So much I know.

On the topic of foreshadowing I think the theorists can have a field 
year or two, it would appear that JKR's idea of what constitutes 
fair and reasonable information is, shall we say,  parsimonious. We 
can accept any theory which casts as much shadow as an ant at high 
noon in death valley frankly.


Regards
Jo

I may be as woefully wrong as Humphrey Belcher, who believed the 
time was ripe for a cheese cauldron.






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