What would convince Harry/canned memories

[snow15145]

Memories 
light 
the 
corner 
of 
my 
mind 
misty 
water 
colored 
memories 
of 
the 
way 
we 
were

Kneasy:
A further question - if someone dies with memories missing, does that
mean that they are missing from any post-death animated representation
of them? 'Cos I was sort of relying on DD's portrait launching into 
the
final explication at the end of book 7. But if he's got memory blanks 
that
exercise might be less than complete.

Snow:

Very interesting question about memories!

If LV put a memory into a diary and that was construed, as a bit of 
his soul, then are all memories a bit of someone's soul that denies 
you to go to the great beyond without them? You are not whole if you 
have left a piece of yourself in your thoughts separate from your 
body and its main soul when you depart, right? 

You could split this into two thoughts; (a) the ghosts and portraits 
of Hogwarts are a memory of themselves that are left purposely so 
that the whole spirit could not leave the earth (b) and (in 
Voldemort's case) those memories that are left as Horcrux's are the 
result of the killing of someone else's soul therefore allowing his 
Horcrux-memory the ability of regeneration. (This is why I felt that 
the potion that Dumbledore drank was an echo of the memories LV used 
as Horcrux's. LV didn't use a vial for his memories but used a bowl 
instead to store them collectively. Each goblet full of potion that 
Dumbledore drank was one memory of a person that LV killed or 
attempted to) 

In other words it's the memories left behind that keeps the whole 
person from his next great adventure. It will keep them here even if 
it is merely a ghostly portrayal of oneself. If you add to that 
mixture, by killing someone else, when you place the memory in the 
Horcrux item you have now sealed a possibility of re-creation. 

Just trying to connect the dots. We were told that we would 
eventually know more about the ghosts and why they had chose to 
become a ghost instead of death but zilch even on Moaning Myrtle in 
that respect. Somehow they must be tied into the greater plot or we 
would have had some info given. We have seen the Pencieve in the last 
three books so it is, one would think, of much relevant significance 
to the overall. We have also been introduced to many objects that 
have a bit of life in them of their previous owners (the sorting hat 
and the Marauders Map come to mind), which can also be of 
significance since the four Marauders made the map. We have seen 
James again but we have yet to directly see Sirius, and I do 
emphasize yet and directly. There may be different variations of the 
memory, soul, Horcrux, factor but I think that these three are tied 
together in the end. 

We shall see
how many licks does it take to get to the center of a 
Toosie Pop! 

Snow:

Does anyone else think of this particular forum as one big Pencieve 
of thoughts; stir counterclockwise seven times then add one clockwise 
stir. Pg 190 
Sounds about right, yes?