Fw: The Geist Predicts

[Barry Arrowsmith]

--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> Oh, I haven't posted over here in ages and there's a serious lack of Snape
> discussion. So I'm cross-posting.
> 

Kneasy:
Ah - the Fragrant Fanmistress with the stainless steel claws. Splendid!
I've been mildly entertained with your efforts in another place to educate 
the great unwashed as to the difference between canon and conclusions
(jumping to for the use of). You're on a loser there, I think.

> Amanda:
> 
> We will finally hear that Snape is not a vampire, has never been a vampire,
> isn't going to be a vampire, hasn't shared any barroom stories with
> vampires, his mother wasn't frightened by a vampire, and he casts a mean
> reflection in a mirror. [We will hear this in some inarguable form that will
> not cause people to see the light, renounce the error of their ways,
> publicly confess, and then later publicly recant the confession and
> gleefully fall back into their former evil ways.]
>

Kneasy:
Recidivists all.
Have they no shame? 
V!S Theory delenda est.

> Amanda:
> We will learn that he did love Lily; but by that I mean *he* loved *her,*
> likely from afar, unless he managed to say something and was let down easy.
> I don't think they ever had a relationship. [I still think part of the
> strength of the venom he associates with James is due to some neat
> sublimation, where he associates all the negative of being let down to
> James, and all the positive feelings that remain to Lily. Also the very deep
> fear that Lily may have told James; can you imagine his (even imagined)
> humiliation, to even consider that James *knew* and could have laughed?]
> 

Kneasy:
Dunno about this one. Maybe I'm too sentimentally attached to the perverse
thinking of my AGGIE post (HPfGU 77800) and the idea that the saintly Lily
had the hots for the shy, vulnerable, friendless misfit of their school years.
Not reciprocated of course, but it sparked the jealous rage in James's breast
that made poor Sevvy's schooldays a misery. 
A sad story and a lesson to us all.

I'm no fan of SHIPs (past, present or future) and when musing on the variants
of  LOLLIPOPS I can't see that Harry's reaction to the thought of his dear old
mum being stalked by the Potions Supremo as being anything but total and
irrevocable shock/horror/disgust and probably engendering an even deeper
hatred towards our beloved Mix!Meister.

Now this could go one of two ways: either it all becomes unbearably and
sickeningly fluffy or Half-cocked!Harry does it again and decides that family
honour requires him to wreak restitution for the presumption of this unworthy
suitor. Now  that could be entertaining.

> Amanda:
> I think JKR will think of some mechanism as brilliant as Occlumency lessons,
> to make Harry and Snape learn still more of each other, without getting one
> iota closer.
> 
> I think Snape will be injured or otherwise damaged through some attempt to
> protect Harry, which Harry does not understand and therefore fights, causing
> it to go awry.
> 

Kneasy:
Highly likely - though it may be held over until the last book.
If - in the next one - DD succumbs to terminal Dragonpox, drowns in his own
soft soap or otherwise becomes hors de combat, who takes over the running
of the Order? S. Snape Esq., that's who. And how will Harry react to that?
What fun!

> snip
> Amanda: 
> And yes, I think Snape will die before that infamous last word "scar": all
> of his character looks backward. He gives me the impression of someone whose
> goals are not ahead, except to rectify mistakes made, and who does not care
> much if he dies in that attempt. He can't let the past go, because that's
> where he lives; I think he accepted long ago that the future holds only one
> task for him and nothing else, and so has made no effort to move past the
> past that defined that future.
> 
> I would love to see Harry and Snape see each other for each other, and not
> for the associations that each have built for the other--but I doubt I will.
>

Kneasy:
Yup. Snuffed!Snape. Can't see it any other way.
I'm still of the opinion that Snapey has a very personal bone to pick with Voldy
and that this is his sole motivation for leaving the DEs, joining DD and putting
up with the adolescent  tantrums of Potter Jnr. He sees Weapon!Harry as the
best bet for savouring his revenge. But otherwise I don't think he gives a damn
about Harry as an individual. He's the means to an end, nothing more. He doesn't
like him, thinks him unreasonable, undisciplined and lazy, and if it weren't for 
DD's plan wouldn't piss on him if he caught fire.
 
Harry probably hates Snape but is unable to appreciate that Snape sees things
on an entirely different level. Snape hates Voldy, what he feels about Harry is 
massive frustration that the one foretold to bring Voldy down is so unremittingly
intransigent. Group hugs and male bonding would be a cop-out ending for the
Harry/Snape dynamic IMO.
But that might be because I'm a miserable old bugger.