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dungrollin
spotthedungbeetle at dungrollin.yahoo.invalid
Tue Jan 24 18:00:59 UTC 2006
A canon quibble, and a couple of lame attempts at answering good
questions.
> Snape also was there for a job interview.
Dung:
Trelawney says that Snape "...was seeking a job at the time, and no
doubt hoped to pick up tips!" (HBP p509 UK) No mention of Snape
being there for an interview too. Of course, he *could* have been -
but you wanted no interpretation, just bare canon.
> Voldy's interpretation of the prophecy points to the Potters and
> Longbottoms and it is this that causes Snape to switch sides.
Dung:
No canon quibbles just going boggle-eyed in shock...
> Did Voldy try a soft approach before resorting to death and
> destruction? Is this where the "thrice defied" fits in? And does
this link to Hagrid's comment "Suppose the myst'ry is why You-Know-
Who never tried to get 'em on his side before."?
Dung: Quite possibly - see also why Sirius' parents thought Voldy
had the right idea before he showed his true colours.
> What exactly is Vapor!Mort?
Dung:
Don't think I can do this without a couple of assumptions, but I'll
give it a go, pointing them out where I can.
(Assumption #1) The usual split is body/mind/soul and JKR mentions
all three so I'm going with that. A soul-sucked person has no soul
and (in the Potterverse) therefore no mind. A ghost has a mind but
no body. (Assumption #2) Presumably a ghost still has a soul that
hasn't passed on to wherever these things go, since you need a soul
to have a mind, and they appear to be conscious thinking things.
>From Diary!Tom, we see that even a small piece of soul is enough to
have a mind. Vapour!Mort had a mind (since he can think well enough
to build up a good stock of resentment towards his loyal followers
while in exile) and a bit of shredded soul. So he was probably just
composed of soul. In which case, why did he not look like a ghost?
Additionally, does a disembodied soul retain its magical powers?
The only power remaining to Vapour!Mort was possession, which
doesn't require a wand (or he wouldn't have been able to do it.) DD
states clearly that no matter how tattered Voldy's soul gets, nor
how many hotcookies are destroyed, his mind and powers remain
unaffected - to the extent that he's probably not even aware of
their destruction. But DD also says that Voldy has no understanding
of how powerful a pure and untarnished soul can be, which is
somewhat contradictory.
We never see any of the Hogwarts ghosts using magic, but Harry has
never actually asked whether they can or not. It might be
significant that although NHN has a ghostly ruff, he has no ghostly
wand, and couldn't pick a real one up anyway. We have two choices,
neither ruled out or in by canon: 1. Ghosts might still have their
magical powers, and therefore be able to do 'uncontrolled wandless'
magic (though it's supposed to emerge when stressed, and since
they're already dead, they shouldn't be scared of much.) 2. There is
something about dying and coming back as a ghost that stops you
being able to access your magic.
Ok, I give up on the strict adherence to canon altogether (that
didn't last long), here's some speculation:
The Bloody Baron doesn't say much, does he? He's not quite as human-
seeming as NHN or the fat friar. One possibility is that
when alive he was a murderer (he's the Slytherin ghost, he seems to
have met with a violent end himself - it's not that much of a
stretch), so his soul is more tattered than NHN's, which could be
why he's less functional as a ghost. Which would explain why Vapour!
Mort was 'less than the meanest ghost' - his tattered soul was
knackered from all the killing sprees.
And the biggie:
> Can the GH mystery be solved using the above canon with no need
for additional assumptions? I know what I think - but that's for
another post.
Dung:
The flippant answer is "ask again after book 7". A slightly less
flippant answer is "we wouldn't be discussing it if we didn't think
we had some chance." But really? I doubt it can be done without a
lucky guess or two (perhaps no-one will, even then), hopefully
guided by some themes and meta-thinking.
Dungrollin
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