Prophecy Pub/Less Than The Meanest Ghost/Black Family Tree

[Lyn J. Mangiameli]

--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady at w...> 
wrote:

> I believe that just because there is a Potter on the Black Family Tree
> doesn't prove that that Potter is related to James and Harry. Besides,
> Dorea (astronomical? connecting to the constellation Doradus seems
> far-fetched) was born 1920 died 1977, ie at age 57, which is not -"she
> was old and she died"- even in Muggle terms ("They were old in
> wizarding terms, and they died" from
> http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm
> )

> 
> (Hi, Lyn, you posted Dorea's age before I did.)

And you just beat me with this observation. I am growing increasingly suspicious here. It is 
just so easy to seize upon the mention of a Potter in this section of the family tree and 
make the assumption it is "our" Potter's lineage - - just as it is to assume about Neville's. 
Great catch in the following, though of course if Rowling wanted to explain it away, she 
could just say "Gran" was known by her middle name.
> 
> Carolyn wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/3815 :
> 
> << So, does this mean that Callidora is the first name of Neville's
> grandmother? >>
> 
> Neville's grandmother's first name is Augusta. Not only did the Daily
> Prophet use it in the first chapter of HBP: << Most seem reassured by
> the new Minister's tough stand on student safety. Said Mrs. Augusta
> Longbottom, "My grandson, Neville >> but so does McGonagall when
> telling Neville to take Charms instead of Transfiguration: "Take
> Charms," said Professor McGonagall, "and I shall drop Augusta a line
> reminding her that just because she failed her Charms O.W.L., the
> subject is not necessarily worthless." 
> 
> 
> If it was *my* Potterverse, all the old Dark Wizard families would
> claim to be descended from Salazar Slytherin and would have put his
> serpent on their arms. I like a black serpent on a black field for the
> Black arms. (In *my* Potterverse, the Malfoys are first among peers,
> tracing their pureblood lineage back to 800-something BC via a
> millenium or so of generations living on Avalon, and *they* claim old
> Salazar to have 'married' into their family, but they still wrapped
> his serpent around the sword on their arms.)
> 
> (Specifically, I think that the Malfoy dedication to their family
> lineage requires selective breeding of Malfoys as much as of
> Hippogryffs, and the then-head of the Malfoy family who discovered
> Salazar's power and cunning, ordered each of his sisters and grown
> daughters to bear a child by Salazar, and arranged marriages between
> these children and the non-Salazar Malfoy children, making sure, for
> example, that his oldest son's oldest son married a girl who was
> Salazar/Malfoy on both sides. Parts of their family tree are tangled.)


Another possibility here is that a Malfoy was SS's mother (assuming he was a full blood).

 
> We can think that Eileen Prince married the first man she could get a
> Love Spell to stick on, because she was pregnant by a married wizard,
> specifically Mr. Black, but I don't think JKR will put that in her book. 

Or that the child's true paternity had to be hidden for his protection. I'm still of the 
persuasion we will find a blood link between DD and Snape. I continue to think that would 
create the greatest irony and dissonance for Harry.

> Kneasy wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/3842 :
> 
> << Simple, really.
> Lily with red hair, DD with hair that possibly used to be red -
> misdirection; a red herring.
> Privet Drive is where his *mother's* blood dwells, which is how the
> protection was set up.
> But it was James that came from a pureblood line - and if DD could
> be connected to that side of the family....  >>
> 
> Yes, but if McGonagall knew that James and Sirius were first cousins
> or Dumbledore was Jame's great-grandfather, why didn't she argue with
> DD's statement that the Dursleys 'are the only family he has left'.
>

I think you're likely right here. But cannot restrain myself from beating the drum again that 
DD had to hide the existance of his family. I would have left them (and thus him) way too 
vulnerable to his formidible adversaries. 


Ah, this fragment she has bestowed is such fun.