Did someone say Crouch? RE: [the_old_crowd] Re: By the way....

[Eileen Rebstock]

Carolyn:
> Another thing, Charis Black (1919-1973) surely can't be the Mrs
> Crouch who died in Azkaban if her husband's name was Casper?
> Irritating, as the 1973 date is exactly right for that event. If
> Bartemious Sr was their son, Barty Jr would be Harry's generation,
> which he wasn't.

No, it's not right. Mrs. Crouch died two or three years *after* Harry
was born. 1982 or 83. 

Anyway, we know Barty Jr. was nineteen at the time of the Longbottom
incident in 1981. Birthdate of 1962 then. There's quite enough time
there for Charis to marry, have Bartemius Sr., and for him to grow up
and marry as well. So I'd peg Charis and Caspar as Barty Sr's parents.

Ok, has anyone read Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan books? Because I'm
beginning to be reminded of the aristocratic family trees in that
series. Tangled and inbred as anything, and everyone is married into a
family with a frankly insane streak, the Vorrutyers.  Any weirdness is
blamed on Vorrutyer blood, and a lot of the main characters worry that
they've inherited the Vorrutyer madness. I see the Blacks as the
equivalent. 

Eileen