Refilling potion and defeating Grindelwald (was RE: Conflicts, cheats and credibility & Re: Why Draco??)
Tim Regan
dumbledad at dumbledad.yahoo.invalid
Tue Jul 24 10:00:58 UTC 2007
Hi All,
Spoiler poem, "To a Friend who wished to give me half her sleep" by Sara
Coleridge. (N.B. When are we doing away with spoiler space?)
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| No, gentle Friend, thou canst not give me sleep -
| Yon velvet mead, that smiles beneath the steep,
| Gives not its verdure to the soil-less rock -
| Or when shall those bright clouds, Heav'n's countless flock,
| With golden tissue line the chill sea-sand?
| Or tempest-shattered trees, that pining stand
| Receive rich robes, their nakedness to cover,
| From leafy neighbours, blossom-starred all over?
| If thou art Croesus-rich in balmy slumbers,
| As are thy waking hours in tuneful numbers,
| Rich in Morphean poppies, richer still
| In thoughts like roses, offspring of good will,
| Thou shouldst be Dives with a wealthier heart,
| Whilst I must wholly bear sad Lazarus' part,
| Unless thy influence with the stars above
| Should cause them on my head such dews to weep,
| And pour such beams of their refreshing love
| That, thus consoled, I scarce should pray for sleep.
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Kneasy asked:
>>> Voldy made Kreacher drink the potion in the cave, placed the locket and
then refilled with potion. RAB drank the potion, switched lockets and went
to Davy Jones' Inferii. Who replenished the potion for DD to drink? <<<
Regulus replaced it before he died, forewarned by Kreacher which potion to
expect. Or the goblet refills itself magically: it might have been a dark
artefact he sought out or he enchanted it to refill after his test.
Jo mentioned:
>>> The whole thing is really shaky though. DD claims to have defeated
Grindelwald in a dual which simply should not have been possible, unless for
some reason Grindy wasn't using the Deathstick. <<<
The fairy tale exaggerated the Elder Wand's superiority. Or Dumbledore knew
the issue and didn't use magic to defeat Grindelwald, but instead used some
more muggle-like technique.
Do those explanations work?
Rather bizarrely there is already an entry on the Wikipedia about the Elder
Wand. This is part of what it says:
>>> The current consensus among fans seems to be that, since the Elder Wand
was sought as a means to defeat death, an opponent who is purposely seeking
not to kill the wand's master could defeat him, and thus take possession of
the wand. This is inferred by the fact that Dumbledore was able to defeat
Grindelwald without killing him, and why Draco Malfoy, who did not have the
nerve to kill Dumbledore, was able to defeat him using Expelliarmus. <<<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_Wand#Elder_Wand
So there you go, we have consensus, it's official ;-)
Cheers,
Dumbledad.
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