Random thoughts
mooseming
josturgess at mooseming.yahoo.invalid
Wed Jul 25 16:45:32 UTC 2007
--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "Barry Arrowsmith"
<arrowsmithbt at ...> wrote:
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> So Harry!Hx became so by default, it wasn't intended at all. A
stray
> bit of Voldy's soul makes a bee-line for the nearest warm body.
> Right.
> So why didn't it bugger off to Kings Cross? Or alternatively when
> Harry got zapped in the clearing, why didn't it home in on its
original
> nesting place i.e. Voldy? On the whole, I think I prefer PT as
more
> logically coherent - but I would, wouldn't I?
Yup PT has more continuity (then again could it have had less????).
When thinking about accidental HarryCrux I came to the conclusion
that in order to AK someone it was necessary to shut them down from
the inside. Imperius and Crucio I thought must work the same way,
they are absolute invasions, a kind of mind rape.
So in AK-ing Harry part of Voldy's mind force (or whatever) was in
Harry, then at the moment the AK was repelled the shutters came down
and trapped part of Voldy in there.
I never really posted this idea because I could see a number of
problems with it, HA!
When Harry was killed in the clearing both bits of soul got the
signal to move on to the great shunting house in the sky. Like all
the other HRX pieces this one didn't return to papa.
>
> Mind you, Harry may have been a Voldy Hx, but effectively Voldy
> was in return a Hx for Harry, and without all that pissing about
with
> antique silverware and souls. Hm.
> Are we then assume that it isn't the Hx that's evil per se, it's
the
> actual production and motivation for producing them that matters?
>
This is another idea I rejected as flawed (aarrghh), thinking about
the blood brother deal it occurred to me that Voldy would really
only ever see the connection as one way, but I *could not believe*
that JK`s solution would be so feeble. Whilst partaking of British
Rail's hospitality DD launched into an explanation that no two
wizards had ever been so convolutedly joined, I can't even begin to
describe the images that generated!
> Hang on a minute - Voldy's intention was to split his soul into
seven.
> We have Diary, Locket, Ring, Diadem, Cup, Nagini, Harry and Voldy
> himself. That makes eight. Um. Since all the Hxs except Harry were
> formed during Voldy's first rampage, and since Harry!Hx was an
> accident and Voldy never intended to make more than the seven
> already in existence, why did his soul split again? What if that
> fragment had been the entire soul complement of a vanquished
> Voldy? (Then we could have had seven books of a sort of
> Damien!Harry on a quest to fit all the bits together again,
> preparatory to ruling the world. Wouldn't that have been fun?)
> But the text never counts up to eight IIRC. Does that mean that
> we had a totally soulless Voldy after GH? Must do. I know Jo's
> maths are pretty duff, but surely even she can count up to
seven...
> or eight.
>
Well I rather thought Voldy made Nagini after he heard about the
destruction of his diary, so he'd have his six back. That still
means that he was unaware that Harry was an accidental HRX. At no
point did I see Voldy deducing that strange connection meant very
much. Is he stupid or what?
> Am I imagining things, or do the revelations about DD make him
> a fit and proper candidate for Slytherin House? Sneaky, cunning,
> tempted by power (even when he was old enough to know better),
> dabbling with Dark Magic and the supremacy of wizarding folk?
> Probably. Just been reading the final chapters again and he really
> would have made a splendid House Master for Slytherin.
Yup, DD would have been in Slytherin no question.
snip
> A suspicion, no more - but I wonder about Snapey (doesn't
everyone?)
> I seem to recall a time when Jo was stunned at his popularity and
> recoiled at the suggestion that he would be redeemed. Then later
> there was a hint that he might be - fan power at work?
> Maybe, just maybe.
>
>
As I said in my previous post I think JK toned down Snape's final
scene. It would have been Robin Hood Prince of Thieves all over
again. Cancel Christmas.
Jo
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