Frank Bryce's Death - query
mooseming
josturgess at mooseming.yahoo.invalid
Sat Jun 23 17:36:35 UTC 2007
--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "Barry Arrowsmith"
<arrowsmithbt at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "mooseming" <josturgess@>
wrote:
> >
> > I've been reviewing DD's HRX identification and have come across
an
> > *error* which is bugging me and for which I can see no *obvious*
> > implications.
> >
> > DD says Voldy got the idea of using Nagini as a HRX after Voldy
used
> > her to "kill an old muggle man" for which I take it he meant
Frank
> > Bryce in the opening of GoF. Yet DD *knows* Voldy used his wand
for
> > that murder as Harry reports his appearance during the Priori
> > Incantatem incident.
> >
>
> Thinking it over.....
> There isn't really any conflict - a Hx is a fragment of soul placed
> inside something else - but the something else (locket, cup or
whatever)
> isn't the killing instrument. And we're told quite explicitly that
Frank
> dies in a blast of green light, so it's the wand wot dun it.
> So, Voldy zaps old Frank, tears his own soul along the dotted
line, plonks
> it in Nagini, and Bilius is your uncle.
>
> All this without any preparation and while Voldy is too weak to
scratch
> his own bum. No, I don't like Hxs as a plot device - at all.
>
> As for how DD knows what went on in the flickering firelight of
the Riddle
> mansion - well, who else was there? And who could well be one of
DD's
> little helpers?
> Peter, of course.
>
> Kneasy
>
Agreed but my conflict comes not from if Voldy killed Frank (he did)
but why DD would cite Nagini's participation as the event that gave
him the idea for an animate HRX. Your Wormtail as squealer certainly
helps with how DD might have the information at all however.
No, I have cheerfully come to the conclusion that DD is indulging in
a little bit of misdirection. Something gave Voldy the idea but it
wasn't Nagini. The timing is about right though. Post GoF corporeal
Voldy becomes aware of his connection to Harry, at last he's
grasped what DD knew from the moment he saw the scar on Harry's
head, Harry is an accidental HRX. So Voldy has his four Hogwart's
trophies, plus the gaunt ring but is down one diary. To regain the
magic number seven he co-opts Nagini because *Harry!Crux* has given
him the idea. Not that DD is about to let *that* piece of
information out, so he creates a cover story which doesn't really
stand up to close scrutiny.
DD claims in CoS that the diary is what prompted him to think Voldy
had indulged in a little light HRXing. Phooey says I. He knew when
he discussed the DADA position with Tom. Don't tell me that
the `burned and blurred`, `waxy and oddly distorted' features
plus `permanently bloody' whites of the eyes passed unnoticed, not
from a man styling himself Voldemort with followers called Death
Eaters. Not by the man who defeated Grindlewald. Not likely.
I have some thoughts on how an accidental HRX might be created
which I may post later, but in the mean time
..
Could Moaning Myrtle have witnessed the creation of the very first
HRX? Should someone ask her?
Regards
Jo
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