Walpurgis in the wind?

mooseming josturgess at mooseming.yahoo.invalid
Sun Jun 24 12:02:52 UTC 2007


--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at ...> wrote:
>
>snip>

> > The Brocken mountains are in Germany, > as is the Black Forest 
where 
> > Quirrell went looking for vampires and found Voldy.
> 
> Hagrid said Quirrell met a vampire in the Black Forest. The student
> rumor mill said he met a vampire in Romania. I don't think either 
is
> canon for where he met LV.
> 
Yes, I got a bit over excited there (surely not) a closer look at 
GoF and Voldy definitely claims he was in Albania.

> > Dumbledore may well have defeated Grindlewald there as the 
allies 
> > bombed Brocken on April 17 1945.
> 
> DD might have defeated Grindelwald at Brocken (I am not married to 
my
> suggestion that the Germanic name and 1945 date are misdirection 
for
> DD having defeated a local UK Dark Wizard), altho' I think it 
would be
> difficult for young Tom Riddle to have apprenticed with Grindelwald
> there to learn Horcrux-making and other Dark Arts. Just Apparate 
right
> through the battle fields?

I don't actually think that Tom met Grindelwald at all. My thoughts 
run along the lines of Grindy (?) and his dark KoW cooperating with 
the SS, or at least hiding their activities within SS operations. 
With the defeat of the Nazis the KoW disbanded or went underground 
and Tom visited Broken to recruit, research, redevelop or some such. 
Ultimately transforming the defunct (or quiescent) KoW into the DE. 
I do strongly suspect that Grindy was another HRX club member,as was 
Salazar.
> 
snip>

 However, LV
> didn't hide himself there, because he hid himself in Albania. 
> 
> Why Albania? 

Hum, perhaps because at the time Voldy was disembodied 1980 - 1990 
ish Albania was pretty much isolated from the rest of the world 
(politically speaking) and the magical world is supposed to reflect 
some of the events in the real world.

> > Karkaroff (an eastern block sounding name) could well have met 
Voldy 
> > during this time.
> 
> Igor Karkaroff has a Slavic sounding name, but does not speak with 
an
> accent. He made some remark like "Hogwarts -- how good to see the 
old
> place again." I'm inclined to think of him as British-born (and
> educated) of immigrant parents.
>  
> > Helga is a Germanic name 
> 
> I remain married to my idea that as many as possible of the 
Founders
> were from the island of Britain, with Helga from the Danelaw and
> Rowena a Saxon from the South. (My theory is probably all wrong,
> because I always think Rowena is the redhead -- like rowan tree -- 
and
> Helga is the blonde, but the Famous Wizard cards tseem not to 
agree.)
> 
> 'Godric' is also a Saxon name, but I've appointed him a Welshman,
> Gryffydd Glyndwr, who very young ran away from his boring wizarding
> home to join a Muggle band of men at arms, where Saxon and Norman
> mercenaries (free-lances!) had trouble pronouncing his name. The
> Normans called him Grevisse (alternate of Gervaise) Gryphon d'Or 
and
> the Saxons called him Godric Glendower, and it amused him to 
combine
> the two and take Godric Gryffindor as his nom de guerre. Perhaps he
> already had the gold gryphon symbol from his family and it helped
> inspired the Gryphon d'Or part of his name.
> 
> Salazar Slytherin *might* be a native of the island of Britain who 
had
> acquired his foreign name while travelling -- otherwise we're stuck
> with the idea that the one foreigner was the one bad guy. I'll buy 
it
> along with my idea that he was 600 years old at the Founding and 
has a
> kazillion descendants, not just the Gaunts. 
> 

I didn't mean to suggest that Helga and Karkaroff were German just 
that they may well have relatives in that part of the world.

I'm pretty convinced Salazar is from Ireland.
Godric from `moor' is English
Rowena from `glen' is Scottish
Helga from `valley' is Welsh
Salazar from `fen' is Irish (where fen = bog) and has the snake 
connections.

The WW doesn't mirror the RW exactly so they needn't have the same 
political boundaries absolutely. Scotland and Ireland have a fair 
degree of shared history so hence the Godric/Salazar relationship 
perhaps.


> But then, I'm the one who believes in a fifth Founder, Tavish
> Tartanwool, who provided the location for Hogwarts (and the latest
> WOMBAT told us that Rowena found it in a dream) and was murdered by
> Salazar.
>
Ah you needn't nix this just yet as that WOMBAT answer was only one 
of the possibles and may not be true.

Regards
Jo





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