FW: The Geist predicts again, mostly about Snape

[Barry Arrowsmith]

--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda Geist" <editor at ...> wrote:
>
> Hey, y'all.  

Wotcher.

> I compiled the following for the HPforGrownups list, but apart
> from one response (which, I admit, was sterling), nobody's commented. 

Well.. No. Shut up, Kneasy. Say nothin'.
You'll only upset somebody.
> 
> 
> (1)  The rest of the Order, along with Harry, go on believing Snape is a
> turncoat.
>

Yes for most of 'em.
But there'll be at least one that doesn't, otherwise there'll be no opportunity
for young Potter to throw tantrums and spread suspicions that an innocent 
party is going soft on the Voldy faction. There's always a voice of reason
around to counter Harry's snap judgements - and he never listens to them. 
It'll probably be Lupin.

> 
> (2)  Hermione discovers the tarot and thus they realize they are looking
> for, among other things, Rowena Ravenclaw's wand.
>

More likely to be Ron, I'd think - he's more gullible than Hermy when it 
comes to the Divination stuff.
Bet it surfaces in a homely game of Snap, or WW equivalent, with a pack
produced by Fleur (continental cards are closer to tarot than those in the
English-speaking world). Innocent questions ensue on why the suits
look different, and - Bingo! 

> (2.a.)  Ollivander has it. His ancestor made it (they've been in business
> for two thousand years, after all). He's hiding; they have to find him
> before the other side does.   [but if Voldemort hasn't Horcruxed it yet?
> Maybe Ollivander's hiding because he is in danger for the simple reason that
> he can tell Harry that he's looking for a wand.]
> 
> 

'Cept I'm hoping Neville has it (see post of yesterday).

> (3) We may see a third in the sequence of brilliant plot mechanisms that
> increase Harry and Snape's knowledge/understanding of each other without
> their desire to know and without them growing any closer.  Snape and Harry
> have already been forced into a deeper understanding through the Occlumency
> lessons and the old potions textbook.  I can think of one plot device that
> will continue this-more knowledge of Lily and any interaction she had with
> Snape.  Since both Snape and Harry see each other through eyes so prejudiced
> they don't even realize it, this could lead to many interesting over- or
> mis-reactions.
> 

Um.
Not sure about this.
Any understanding will come too late, IMO.
Harry is not about to give Sevvy the benefit of any doubts and Snape doesn't
give a toss what Harry thinks - he just wants him to fulfill the Prophecy in the
way that DD planned it.
Not exactly fertile grounds for mutual respect or understanding - and any
hint that Sevvy saw Lily as a possible help-meet through life's trials and
tribulations is liable to engender nothing but disgust in Harry.

Besides, you sound as if there will be multiple interactions between them;
I'd bet on there only being two - and the second one is where Sevvy ends up
as a crumpled heap on the floor.

> 
> (4) Related to #3: We will learn that he did love Lily; but by that I mean
> *he* loved *her,* likely from afar, unless he managed to say something and
> was let down easy. I don't think they ever had a relationship. [I still
> think part of the strength of the venom he associates with James is due to
> some neat sublimation, where he associates all the negative of being let
> down to James, and all the positive feelings that remain to Lily. Also the
> very deep fear that Lily may have told James; can you imagine his (even
> imagined) humiliation, to even consider that James *knew* and could have
> laughed?]
> 

Hate LOLLIPOPS, just hate it.
Not only is it mushy, it's also trite.
So it'll probably be true.
Arrgh!

> (5)  We will hear reports of Snape doing things that can be interpreted in
> two ways but will be presented as only Evil!Snape.
> 

Naturally.
>  
> 
> (5.a.)  Harry will fatally misunderstand some action of Snape's, and act
> based on his own interpretation of it, to the great harm of both Harry,
> Snape, and the cause. JKR depends on Harry's misinterpretation of things as
> a plot driver; and this is prime territory. For example, I will be genuinely
> surprised should Snape honestly turn out to be wholeheartedly supporting
> Voldemort--but since he must give that impression, and Harry is so ready to
> believe it, we will likely see more ambiguity (if not wilfull disbelief on
> Harry's part) leading to mishap. Possibly as I outline in #6.
> 

Yes, Harry  will misunderstand, misinterpret and by doing so will put Snape's
anti-Voldy-but-pretending-otherwise gambit (devised by DD) in jeopardy. 

> (6)  Harry will confront Voldemort with Snape present.
>

There's a traditional bit of business that could fit in here, which may
incorporate your 6a, b, & c. One that some of us having been waiting 
for since book 4 - the Temptation.

This could take one of any number of forms and it's highly unlikely
that Potter would ever ally himself with ole Snake-eyes. But he's been
leaning towards violence, revenge and Unforgiveable Curses since the
Ministry battle - no doubt egged on by that stray bit of software in his
head. This is an important part of the plot, IMO, that starts in book 1 -
"Not Slytherin, eh? You could be great, you know, it's all here in your
head, and Slytherin will help you on your way to greatness..."

Fans scoff, but Kneasy reckons that the Hat saw a fragment of Sally
in his head, and it was that that would help him to greatness, not
a bunch of plonkers in Slytherin House. All he has to do is let it
loose - and when Voldy countered the Yah!-can't-touch-me shield
spell in the graveyard, it's possible that the fragment was freed to 
become active.

No-one seems to consider that the lightning-flash scar on Harry's
bonce is much like the lapel flashes of the Waffen SS. And that's
what they were - stylised Ses. Harry marked with an S-for-Slytherin.
If that isn't a clue, I don't know what is.

Certainly it's since then that his mental links with the external Voldy
have strengthened -  why not with the internal Voldy too?

Again, the prophecy ".. the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal...."
Not his opposite, you'll note - his equal.
Harry has the potential to be another Dark Lord, DD knew it - hence
the "in essence divided" test, and he could start down that path all too 
easily unless he can sort out which of his thoughts and impulses are
truly his own, and which are cuckoo hatchlings.

Snape's greatest feat may be saving Harry from himself (see (7)).

> 
> (7)  Regardless of whether it takes the shape I lay out in #6, Snape will be
> injured or otherwise damaged through some attempt to protect Harry, which
> Harry does not understand and therefore fights, causing it to go awry.  A
> potential scenario is in If myIt may be the spell that Dumbledore's willing
> death could have been a part of (see #11 below).
> 
> 
> (8)  Snape will die. All of his character looks backward. He gives me the
> impression of someone whose goals are not ahead, except to rectify mistakes
> made, and who does not care much if he dies in that attempt. He can't let
> the past go, because that's where he lives; I think he accepted long ago
> that the future holds only one task for him and nothing else, and so has
> made no effort to move past the past that defined that future.  I personally
> think he will go heroically in some blaze of redemption, but he's toast. 
> 

Yep, he'll die. 
 
> 
> (10) Harry will learn why Dumbledore trusts Snape, from a memory Dumbledore
> left safely bottled in his office somewhere.  
> 
> 

Don't forget the possiblities of DD's portrait waking up and spouting off.


You've sort of skated round the most interesting question one can ask
about ole Snapey - why did he leave a winning team and join DD in the
first place?

The answer of course, lies in Blackwidower!Snape and Snape!Son.

Kneasy