From carolynwhite2 at carolynwhite2.yahoo.invalid Wed Dec 3 17:27:22 2008 From: carolynwhite2 at carolynwhite2.yahoo.invalid (carolynwhite2) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:27:22 -0000 Subject: ... not a Ford Anglia, but a flying car for sale! Message-ID: Life imitates literature once more: http://tinyurl.com/67nrv9 From katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid Mon Dec 22 13:36:12 2008 From: katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid (Kat Macfarlane) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:36:12 -0800 Subject: Holiday Greetings! Message-ID: <494F97CC.5010105@...> Holiday Greetings! Festive Purrs! --Gatta [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From susiequsie23 at cubfanbudwoman.yahoo.invalid Mon Dec 22 14:04:04 2008 From: susiequsie23 at cubfanbudwoman.yahoo.invalid (Susan Albrecht) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:04:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [the_old_crowd] Holiday Greetings! Message-ID: <921506.67800.qm@...> Gatta sent: > Holiday Greetings! > > Festive Purrs! SSSusan adds: While I don't have a lovely card a la Gatta set up, I can send along my own Christmas Kitties: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/3114644818_54bf340deb.jpg?v=0 Anyone else have some Christmas feline photos to share? :) So, Kneasy, will you be preparing a Christmas goose again this year?? I still think about the instructions you once sent me for doing so, although I've not actually plucked up the courage to?attempt it. Wishing?a?Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah,?belated Festive Winter Solstice (or whatever?your holiday of choice), and a Happy New Year to all! Siriusly Snapey Susan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid Mon Dec 22 17:34:31 2008 From: katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid (Kat Macfarlane) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:34:31 -0800 Subject: [the_old_crowd] Holiday Greetings! In-Reply-To: <921506.67800.qm@...> References: <921506.67800.qm@...> Message-ID: <494FCFA7.8090702@...> What beautiful babies! What are their names? I expect the one on the left has plenty of tortitude! Purrs, --Gatta Susan Albrecht wrote: > > Gatta sent: > > Holiday Greetings! > > > > > > Festive Purrs! > > SSSusan adds: > > While I don't have a lovely card a la Gatta set up, I can send along > my own Christmas Kitties: > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/3114644818_54bf340deb.jpg?v=0 > > > Anyone else have some Christmas feline photos to share? :) > > So, Kneasy, will you be preparing a Christmas goose again this year? > I still think about the instructions you once sent me for doing so, > although I've not actually plucked up the courage to attempt it. > > Wishing a Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, belated Festive Winter > Solstice (or whatever your holiday of choice), and a Happy New Year to > all! > > Siriusly Snapey Susan > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From susiequsie23 at cubfanbudwoman.yahoo.invalid Mon Dec 22 21:18:07 2008 From: susiequsie23 at cubfanbudwoman.yahoo.invalid (Susan Albrecht) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:18:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [the_old_crowd] Holiday Greetings! Message-ID: <508826.24177.qm@...> Gatta: > What beautiful babies! What are their names? I expect the one on the > left has plenty of tortitude! SSS: The one on the left is Adidas, the one on the right, Washington.? Rightie outweighs leftie by 100%, but she holds her own against him. ;) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid Tue Dec 23 03:47:58 2008 From: katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid (Kat Macfarlane) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:47:58 -0800 Subject: [the_old_crowd] Holiday Greetings! In-Reply-To: <508826.24177.qm@...> References: <508826.24177.qm@...> Message-ID: <49505F6E.7060009@...> I am not surprised! When I had Tommy (the dom), George, and Nefret Jane, Jane had no inhibitions about bashing Tommy over the ears if he tried to move in on her dinner dish. George, on the other hand, is her devoted cavalier, and wouldn't dream of doing anything that might offend her Royal Highness. Those are the two that featured in my card. If you look closely at the middle top of the picture, you can see that they are holding paws. :) Purrs, Gatta Susan Albrecht wrote: > > Gatta: > > What beautiful babies! What are their names? I expect the one on the > > left has plenty of tortitude! > > SSS: > The one on the left is Adidas, the one on the right, Washington. > Rightie outweighs leftie by 100%, but she holds her own against him. ;) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From arrowsmithbt at kneasy.yahoo.invalid Fri Dec 26 20:35:41 2008 From: arrowsmithbt at kneasy.yahoo.invalid (Barry Arrowsmith) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:35:41 -0000 Subject: Holiday Greetings! In-Reply-To: <921506.67800.qm@...> Message-ID: > > > SSSusan adds: > > Snip > So, Kneasy, will you be preparing a Christmas goose again this year?? I still think about the instructions you once sent me for doing so, although I've not actually plucked up the courage to?attempt it. > > Wishing?a?Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah,?belated Festive Winter Solstice (or whatever?your holiday of choice), and a Happy New Year to all! > > Siriusly Snapey Susan > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Sorry about the delay, there were lots of bottles that had to be opened... and emptied. Yes, goose time again. A magnificent bird made the supreme sacrifice of ending up on Kneasy's plate. A noble and heroic end. Enough fat harvested for months of delicious roast spuds, too. Small drawback - the Hound lay gazing through the glass door of the oven, drooling the while, and after 3 hours the kitchen floor was awash. She has absolutely no shame. You really should try it one year, launch yourself into the adventure of lovely crispy skin and a rich meat that would perk up the moribund. If you need more encouragement drop me a line. However, the main event is over now, just the fag end of the year to get through. Hope it went well for everyone and you have the strength and fortitude required to gird up your loins for the New Year thing. Not that I'll be celebrating, that's one bash I always give a miss to, in bed by 10.30 - and with the phone switched off. It's part of being a miserable old fart. No matter, I'll still wish everyone a Happy New Year. Kneasy From ewetoo at ewe2_au.yahoo.invalid Sat Dec 27 01:04:54 2008 From: ewetoo at ewe2_au.yahoo.invalid (ewe2) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:04:54 +1100 Subject: [the_old_crowd] Re: Holiday Greetings! In-Reply-To: References: <921506.67800.qm@...> Message-ID: <91d14f320812261704o5548b3bdy4d29f1236735dea@...> Kneasy said: > Sorry about the delay, there were lots of bottles that had to be opened... and emptied. In my hot upside-down homeland this too is a necessary chore. Christmas dinner for me is usually something along the lines of cold chicken and salad, but beer is always essential for the long bloated afternoon. > However, the main event is over now, just the fag end of the year to get through. > Hope it went well for everyone and you have the strength and fortitude required to > gird up your loins for the New Year thing. Not that I'll be celebrating, that's one bash > I always give a miss to, in bed by 10.30 - and with the phone switched off. > It's part of being a miserable old fart. Unfortunately for me I won't be working so I expect to be added to some happy throng or other to yell inanities into the summer air, but that's what New Year's is about. At least there's fireworks, that's always fun. In practice, I also find that congestion takes care of any unintended phone communications. > No matter, I'll still wish everyone a Happy New Year. As do I! > > Kneasy > -- Emacs vs. Vi flamewars are a pointless waste of time. Vi is the best From katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid Mon Dec 29 05:09:48 2008 From: katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid (Kat Macfarlane) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:09:48 -0800 Subject: [the_old_crowd] Re: Holiday Greetings! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49585B9C.3030304@...> Dear one, If I cooked a goose (or a turkey either), my goose would be /cooked/! I am a small woman (4'10" at last reckoning), and weigh approximately 130 pounds, so the goose would probably win the battle paddles down (and shit all over the kitchen floor into the bargain). Even if it didn't, I live in a tiny little apartment with a tiny little refrigerator. What on earth would a person like me do with the Brontosaurus after the Feast, assuming that there is room in here for a Feast, and assuming I liked turkey, which I don't? I don't know about goose, never sampled one and probably never will, though got a rather bad impression of them from the Canada geese that hung out on Lake Washington in my doctoral years and energetically pursued anyone they perceived as having a picnic on them. (I often wonder if cave women ever had this problem. ("Oh my /Gawd/, he's bringing home another damned /mastodon/!") I'm glad you got so much enjoyment (and so much fat) out of your goose, but I think I will stick to skinless, boneless chicken breasts as something my size can deal with without a great deal of angst and bother. Slightly overet purrs, --Gatta Barry Arrowsmith wrote: > > > > > > > SSSusan adds: > > > > > Snip > > > So, Kneasy, will you be preparing a Christmas goose again this > year? I still think about > the instructions you once sent me for doing so, although I've not > actually plucked up the > courage to attempt it. > > > > Wishing a Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, belated Festive Winter > Solstice (or > whatever your holiday of choice), and a Happy New Year to all! > > > > Siriusly Snapey Susan > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Sorry about the delay, there were lots of bottles that had to be > opened... and emptied. > > Yes, goose time again. A magnificent bird made the supreme sacrifice > of ending > up on Kneasy's plate. A noble and heroic end. Enough fat harvested for > months of > delicious roast spuds, too. Small drawback - the Hound lay gazing > through the glass > door of the oven, drooling the while, and after 3 hours the kitchen > floor was awash. > She has absolutely no shame. > > You really should try it one year, launch yourself into the adventure > of lovely crispy > skin and a rich meat that would perk up the moribund. > If you need more encouragement drop me a line. > > However, the main event is over now, just the fag end of the year to > get through. > Hope it went well for everyone and you have the strength and fortitude > required to > gird up your loins for the New Year thing. Not that I'll be > celebrating, that's one bash > I always give a miss to, in bed by 10.30 - and with the phone switched > off. > It's part of being a miserable old fart. > > No matter, I'll still wish everyone a Happy New Year. > > Kneasy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From arrowsmithbt at kneasy.yahoo.invalid Tue Dec 30 15:02:34 2008 From: arrowsmithbt at kneasy.yahoo.invalid (Barry Arrowsmith) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:02:34 -0000 Subject: Holiday Greetings! In-Reply-To: <49585B9C.3030304@...> Message-ID: --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, Kat Macfarlane wrote: > > Dear one, > > If I cooked a goose (or a turkey either), my goose would be /cooked/! I > am a small woman (4'10" at last reckoning), and weigh approximately 130 > pounds, so the goose would probably win the battle paddles down (and > shit all over the kitchen floor into the bargain). Even if it didn't, I > live in a tiny little apartment with a tiny little refrigerator. What on > earth would a person like me do with the Brontosaurus after the Feast, > assuming that there is room in here for a Feast, and assuming I liked > turkey, which I don't? I don't know about goose, never sampled one and > probably never will, though got a rather bad impression of them from the > Canada geese that hung out on Lake Washington in my doctoral years and > energetically pursued anyone they perceived as having a picnic on them. > > (I often wonder if cave women ever had this problem. ("Oh my /Gawd/, > he's bringing home another damned /mastodon/!") > > I'm glad you got so much enjoyment (and so much fat) out of your goose, > but I think I will stick to skinless, boneless chicken breasts as > something my size can deal with without a great deal of angst and bother. > > Slightly overet purrs, > > --Gatta Um. Well, mine was dead when I got it. Not that I'm averse to slaughtering beasties, though I suspect that in my enthusiasm it could get..... messy. And plucking the damn thing would be a pain in the ar*e, frankly. No country-girl you, that's obvious. Geese aren't in the same size league as turkeys - average size for a fat farm-bred free-range goose is about 12 - 13 lbs, going down to 9lb or up to about 15 max. Wild ones tend a bit smaller. Fits in a halfway decent oven. >From a mid-size you'll get about 3 pints of goose fat, leaving a cooked carcase of roughly 8 lb (including bones) which, with some plucky work with the elbows means it won't still be occupying the fridge/freezer come Easter, but will be a pleasant memory before New Year. Ideal, IMO. And just think, you'll be exacting an annual revenge on those Washingtonian hissers. Serves 'em right. You are at the top of the food chain, after all. From katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid Wed Dec 31 02:20:49 2008 From: katmac at lagattalucianese.yahoo.invalid (Kat Macfarlane) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:20:49 -0800 Subject: [the_old_crowd] Re: Holiday Greetings! (Getting More OT All the Time) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495AD701.1010501@...> What on /earth/ does one do with a quart and a half of goose grease? In-depth facials for the next twelve months? Alternative auto fuel? Those honkers at the University of Washington were certainly no fifteen-pounders! More like the USS Nimitz coming ashore with blood in its eye! There's something about the S-curve of the neck and the downward slant of the wings that makes a sensible person want to get out of the vicinity real fast. No, I'm not a country girl; city- and academia-bred all my life, though the academic side of things at least does have its Culinary Moments (there was the tongue with fur on in chromium-yellow caper sauce at Columbia, and the aptly named Cheesy Garden Casserole at UW). I had the good fortune to be a medical brat, and my father discovered cholesterol in the early 1960s; since my mother was a middle-western farm girl and thought Crisco was a food group all by itself, it fell to me to develop recipes that didn't involve saturated fat. I got pretty good at it if I do say so , though I've gone back to using butter instead of margarine in my old age to avoid trans fats (it tastes better too), at least in baking. Everywhere else I use olive oil (Mediterranean) or peanut oil (Oriental). (So that you won't lie awake all night wondering: The peanut started out in Peru, and got to China and India the same way hot peppers did, by way of enterprising Spanish traders who carried the good stuff from their New World colonies to interested connoisseurs everywhere else in the world. Think of them kindly the next time you enjoy a good curry. The chocolate, of course, they took back to Spain, not wanting to waste the /really/ good stuff on ignorant heathens.) There now. Don't you feel better for having had a little history lesson before goose? Slightly dyspeptic purrs, --Gatta Barry Arrowsmith wrote: > > --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com > , Kat Macfarlane > wrote: > > > > Dear one, > > > > If I cooked a goose (or a turkey either), my goose would be /cooked/! I > > am a small woman (4'10" at last reckoning), and weigh approximately 130 > > pounds, so the goose would probably win the battle paddles down (and > > shit all over the kitchen floor into the bargain). Even if it didn't, I > > live in a tiny little apartment with a tiny little refrigerator. > What on > > earth would a person like me do with the Brontosaurus after the Feast, > > assuming that there is room in here for a Feast, and assuming I liked > > turkey, which I don't? I don't know about goose, never sampled one and > > probably never will, though got a rather bad impression of them from > the > > Canada geese that hung out on Lake Washington in my doctoral years and > > energetically pursued anyone they perceived as having a picnic on them. > > > > (I often wonder if cave women ever had this problem. ("Oh my /Gawd/, > > he's bringing home another damned /mastodon/!") > > > > I'm glad you got so much enjoyment (and so much fat) out of your goose, > > but I think I will stick to skinless, boneless chicken breasts as > > something my size can deal with without a great deal of angst and > bother. > > > > Slightly overet purrs, > > > > --Gatta > > Um. > Well, mine was dead when I got it. Not that I'm averse to slaughtering > beasties, > though I suspect that in my enthusiasm it could get..... messy. And > plucking > the damn thing would be a pain in the ar*e, frankly. > > No country-girl you, that's obvious. Geese aren't in the same size league > as turkeys - average size for a fat farm-bred free-range goose is > about 12 - > 13 lbs, going down to 9lb or up to about 15 max. Wild ones tend a bit > smaller. > Fits in a halfway decent oven. > >From a mid-size you'll get about 3 pints of goose fat, leaving a > cooked carcase > of roughly 8 lb (including bones) which, with some plucky work with > the elbows > means it won't still be occupying the fridge/freezer come Easter, but > will be a > pleasant memory before New Year. Ideal, IMO. > > And just think, you'll be exacting an annual revenge on those > Washingtonian > hissers. Serves 'em right. You are at the top of the food chain, after > all. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From arrowsmithbt at kneasy.yahoo.invalid Wed Dec 31 11:05:31 2008 From: arrowsmithbt at kneasy.yahoo.invalid (Barry Arrowsmith) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:05:31 -0000 Subject: Holiday Greetings! (Getting More OT All the Time) In-Reply-To: <495AD701.1010501@...> Message-ID: --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, Kat Macfarlane wrote: > > What on /earth/ does one do with a quart and a half of goose grease? > In-depth facials for the next twelve months? Alternative auto fuel? > Wouldn't know about facials, much of mine is obscured by beard, though IIRC goose-grease used to be slapped on children's chests as a winter protective. However, culinary uses: http://www.goosefat.co.uk/gfis_03.html It also happens to be one of the healthier fats, low in saturates. Keeps, too. A year when refrigerated. > Those honkers at the University of Washington were certainly no > fifteen-pounders! More like the USS Nimitz coming ashore with blood in > its eye! There's something about the S-curve of the neck and the > downward slant of the wings that makes a sensible person want to get out > of the vicinity real fast. > Yeah, impressive, isn't it? Fluffing up like that. Strip off the feathers, though and they shrink to an amazing degree. They make damn good watch-dogs, and unlike Rottweilers it's acceptable to eat them. Perfect. > No, I'm not a country girl; city- and academia-bred all my life, though > the academic side of things at least does have its Culinary Moments > (there was the tongue with fur on in chromium-yellow caper sauce at > Columbia, and the aptly named Cheesy Garden Casserole at UW). I had the > good fortune to be a medical brat, and my father discovered cholesterol > in the early 1960s; Interesting. Does that make you the Kolesterol Kid? > since my mother was a middle-western farm girl and > thought Crisco was a food group all by itself, it fell to me to develop > recipes that didn't involve saturated fat. I got pretty good at it if I > do say so , though I've gone > back to using butter instead of margarine in my old age to avoid trans > fats (it tastes better too), at least in baking. Everywhere else I use > olive oil (Mediterranean) or peanut oil (Oriental). (So that you won't > lie awake all night wondering: The peanut started out in Peru, and got > to China and India the same way hot peppers did, by way of enterprising > Spanish traders who carried the good stuff from their New World colonies > to interested connoisseurs everywhere else in the world. Think of them > kindly the next time you enjoy a good curry. Oh, yes. The exquisite delectation of a first-class Bombay bum-burner. Lovely. > The chocolate, of course, > they took back to Spain, not wanting to waste the /really/ good stuff on > ignorant heathens.) > Chocolate. Good stuff. One of the main food groups, along with alcohol, caffeine, nicotine and (according to Pratchett - knighted today in Honours List) - burned crispy bits. > There now. Don't you feel better for having had a little history lesson > before goose? > Always interested in this sort of stuff. If I can remember it it may give the impression of Kneasy knowledgeability on some future occasion. Not that I take much notice of healthy lifestyle propaganda. it's part of the belief that some types have that someone out there is enjoying themselves, and we must stop them immediately. See no merit in becoming a trophy survivor in the Old Folk's Home with others deciding what I do, what I eat, etc. I have no intention of finishing up as a perfectly healthy corpse. What a waste. Hopefully, I'll arrive at the end with a bacon sandwich in one hand, a large gin in the other, a grin on the face and "Whee! What a ride!" And frankly, the 65 years clocked up so far have been pretty good, despite constant appeals for me to behave myself. Where's the fun in that?