[HP4GU-FAQ] Re: Fantastic Post Flagging & Governance and Autonomy

[Heidi Tandy]

Nup, wasn't me. Was it penny?

Heidi, who's already deleted emails but thinks that having 4 team 
leaders might make sense and not pu the whole onus on one person


On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:32PM -0500, Susannah Myers wrote:
> Real-To:  Susannah Myers <susannahlm at yahoo.com>
>
> Cindy wrote:
>
>>  So can we just elect some leaders, see if
>>  MEG will accept them, and
>>  then get back to work?
>>
>
> And then Heidi wrote:
>
>>  Yes, I wish you'd just cut to the chase without
>>  the lengthy discourse on
>>  your view of the various failings of MEG over the
>>  years, but I agree with
>>  your final end conclusion, Cindy.
>>
>
> Well. . . although she could hardly just say: "We need
> a benign dictatorship and not a democracy" without
> *some* explanation, could she? How would *that* have
> come across? (Besides, those who do not remember the
> past. . .)
>
> But yeah. I agree with the end conclusion too.
>
> Amanda wrote:
>
>>  I'm not sure I do. If there's any list that seems to
>>  operate well by
>>  consensus, it's this one (at least, when we're
>>  *active*). We are a focused
>>  list with one purpose: comb the main list posts for
>>  candidates for
>>  inclusion; compile FAQs. When there's questions
>>  about how to do something,
>>  we discuss. It works.
>>
>>  About the only thing I think we'd need to elect is a
>>  representative to MEG,
>>  if you want to start doing "status reports" or
>>  anything.
>
> *No!* Nonononono! I *need* a benign dictator!
>
> I'm with Heidi and Cindy on this one. Either FAQ
> should have a BD, or the working house teams should
> each have a Head of House, or *something.* There has
> to be some kind of centralized authority -- to kick
> people when they procrastinate, to help out us *still*
> very confused newbies, to make judgement calls when
> they need to be made. Anyway, if I don't have someone
> in authority over me, I will procrastinate from here
> until kingdom *come.* [1] If we don't have some kind
> of centralized authority, I will either want my own
> *personal* dictator, or you will want to kick me off
> the list, because I won't be getting very much done.
>
> And, while I frankly doubt that anyone here
> procrastinates to the extent that I do, I surely can't
> be the only one with *some* issues that way. And
> leaders are useful for procrastinators.
>
> Amanda:
>
>>  I *so* don't want to get into another governance
>>  discussion on another list.
>>  When we're working on FAQs, it *works.* Let's not
>>  get derailed yet again.
>
> Actually, this entire discussion is something of a
> case in point -- if we had a leader, we wouldn't *get*
> bogged down in governmental decisions, because one
> individual would just make those calls. And it does
> seem likely that governmental decisions will resurface
> again at some point -- when they do, will we have any
> more of a structure to handle them than we do now?
>
> I dunno. Maybe I'm just a creature of structure, but I
> think that things here are just sort of. . .
> *chaotic,* as is. I'm not very good at coping with
> those sorts of situations -- I'm never sure what I'm
> supposed to be doing, and so I never get very much
> done.
>
>
>
> Derannimer
>
> [1] "I've been living my life for a long time. I know
> how it works." -- Rincewind the Wizzard, Terry
> Pratchett's _The Last Hero_.
>
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