FP vs. HA, Harry FP & Beer (was: Hello too!)
abigailnus
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Tue Jun 3 09:25:56 UTC 2003
--- In HP4GU-FAQ at yahoogroups.com, "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at c...> wrote:
> Abigail wrote:
>
> > 1. I'm a bit fuzzy about the difference between a Fantastic Posts
> >essay and a Hypothetic Alley essay. How exactly do you determine
> >whether a discussion will be covered by a FP or HA? For example,
> >if we were writing a Harry FP, where would Stoned!Harry go?
>
> Ah, OK. Good question.
>
> HA is supposed to refer to TBAY discussion and theories. An HA
> entry should just summarize the theory briefly (and hopefully in a
> mildly entertaining fashion) and include links to the applicable
> TBAY posts.
OK, time to display my great ignorance. When you say TBAY
discussions and theories, you mean messages in TBAY style, right?
If so, then most of the theories in HA are not TBAY theories. The
Snape theories were all thought up outside of TBAY proper - even
George - and so were most of the Florence and Mrs. Norris theories.
Even MAGIC DISHWASHER started out non-TBAY. The only theory
I can think of, off the top of my head, that started on TBAY is
Assassin!Snape.
Or are you saying that any acronym or Attribute!Character theory
is summed up on HA and can be referenced on a relevent (or
several relevant) FP?
I've been thinking about the Harry FP, and I've had a few thoughts
on subject that might go in it. I think by the time I'm ready to do
some serious work on this group I'll probably forget what I wanted
to say, so I'll just post them now and anyone interested can offer
suggestions for improvement.
I think that when it comes to Harry discussions on the group, there
are two seperate categories.
1. Harry's character, development and relationships
2. Harry's purpose, abilities and destiny
In the first category, topics might include:
* Harry as an abused child, including the theory that the entire series
is his protective halucination, or that the series will end up being a
dream.
* The differing views on Harry's personality - is he a take-charge
hero or an arrogant kid? How justified is Harry's incessant
rule-breaking?
* Harry's inability/unwillingness to ask for help
* Harry's relationships with adults - maybe something about how
each male figure in Harry's life is a different aspect of the father
figure.
* Harry's relationships with his contemporaries (I don't think there's
any reason to talk about SHIPs here as they've been rather well
covered in their own FP). The Rift in GoF, and maybe Harry's
treatment of Neville.
* Harry's reactions to fame.
* Harry failing - I'm thinking specifically about the most recent
discussion, but I know that several times Harry has been criticized
for being too perfect.
In the second category, topics might include:
* Why did Harry survive? There have been a few explorations of
Lily's sacrifice that might belong here - the straight up love
protection, Love as a Spell Component and Ancient Magic.
* Is Harry special, and how? Stoned!Harry should be here, as well
as the various theories that Harry's conception was engineered, as
well as Trelawney's First Prediction and Heir of Gryffindor.
* Harry's abilities - is Harry simply a talented wizard, or a
preternaturally powerful one? I once suggested that Harry's power
comes from Voldemort, but it wasn't a very good post, and I'm almost
certain I saw someone else say it better.
* Was the Philosopher's Stone ordeal rigged? I know this is usually a
MAGIC DISHWASHER argument, but I think it stands on its own, and
raises the possibility that Dumbledore is grooming Harry for great
things.
* Will Harry die? Will defeating Voldemort cost him his magical
powers? Will he be forced to leave the wizarding world?
I'm sure there's stuff here that I missed, so fire away!
> > Well, I have to go - today is Student Day, a 36-hour-long
> >extravaganza, the origins of which are lost in the mists of time.
> >Mostly it's an excuse for corporate sponsors to harangue a captive
> >audience, but they're bringing in some good bands.
>
> Is there, um, beer involved? ;-)
That depends. If you mean, are students sneaking beer kegs on
campus where the cops can't see them, then no. If you mean, is there
a bar where, depending on how good a deal the student association
struck with this year's sponsors, drinks are either free or extremely
overpriced, then yes. And before you have a seizure, the drinking age
in Israel is 18, and besides, the lifecycle of the Israeli post-teen is:
graduation, army (2-4 years, depending on gender and whether one
becomes an officer), working dead-end jobs for six months to pay for
a trip, taking the trip (destinations in order of preference: India and
the Far East, South America, Australia and New Zealand, and, for
cowards like myself, Europe and/or North America), six months to a
year of improving high-school grades and/or taking SATs, university.
So 21 is a relatively young age for a freshman.
Abigail
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