[HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Seventh Son stuff

[ewe2]

On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 02:07:03PM -0000, CarolynWhite2 wrote:

> KITCHEN SINK was/is nothing of the sort. It isn't even really a 
> theory. There was an anti-MD Snape theory called PRESSURE COOKER 
> dreamt up by the Faith contingent some time after SPYING GAME I & II 
> were published, and someone (Eloise I think) said jokingly one point 
> that they now had everything but the kitchen sink. This is an 
> apposite Brit colloquialism meaning 'everything but the rubbish, the 
> dregs'.

I refer you again to #45498 where the acronym is spelt out. I'm quite aware of
what the colloquial 'kitchen sink' means, it did filter down here to us
colonials. In any case it looks very much like a theory, and related to
DISHWASHER, even in the negative sense. Personally I don't see any dichotomy
in the characterization of DD anyway, in fact I think it strengthens DD's
position.

> Sean, please note the post numbers we have now got to - we are 
> already into second-round arguments about MD. If MD is referred to, 
> the reference is to the whole theory, from post 39662 onwards. The 
> actual MD acronym was not coined until post 39751 - see Grey Wolf's 
> post 39854 for an explanation. The reference to mysterious agenda's 
> in the acronym are Dumbledore's and Voldie's, you can't separate that 
> bit out.

Don't understand what relevance this has, but anyway...

> And I think you are missing the point about TBAY completely. It is 
> (IMO) a fascinating **style** that some people adopted to try and 
> explain their theories. In as far as it advanced particular theories, 
> it is as valid as any other style of posting. 'Authoritative' is 
> completely the wrong adjective to use about it; no post on this 
> ridiculous list is 'authoritative' about anything!

That's not the impression I got, and you can scream 'wrong wrong wrong' at the
top of your voice as much as you like. My impression is that TBAY was as much
intimidating as admired. I never said it wasn't valid, but it certainly wasn't
easy to join in. Not everyone had that skill, not everyone wanted to build
theories on top of each other and destroy them. The trouble with TBAY was that
it was too successful as an entertainment and a focus in itself, and
discussion around it tended to focus on acronyms and positions it presented.
That's as 'authoritative' as anything gets on the List, apart from canon
itself. Much easier to talk about what TBAY said than to add to TBAY yourself.
I doubt a quarter of the List at the time even made head or tail of TBAY let
alone felt qualified to make a contribution. So as a "style" it was singularly
unsuccessful, as a "focus" it was wildly so. I'm oddly reminded of Monty
Python takeoffs of "serious" BBC investigative-type current-affairs
programmes. Yes, TBAY were the Monty Python of the List. It all makes sense
now.

> There are still quite a lot of the original TBAYers around the list 
> (eg Pippin) but it's not a game worth playing unless a group wants to 
> join in. Like most other interesting aspects of HPfGU it's been 
> driven off the board by the terminally brain dead. There never were 
> any barriers to joining in, apart from making the effort to 
> understand and read, and experiment. Sure, there are lots of in-
> jokes, but is that a crime? It's what happens when people get to know 
> each other on and offlist. So what? Why does everything always have 
> to be plain vanilla, understandable by the dullest wits in the 
> universe...

Now you're getting paranoid and more than a bit elitist, if I may say so. Us
idiots are quite happy for you to put on the TBAY show, just don't expect us
to do any different than before. We never stopped you in the first place.
Lampooning people because they didn't join in is silly.

> Carolyn
> ..getting heated, and eyeing up that length of rope.

Any last requests? <duck>

Sean

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