Questions/Neville

[carolynwhite2]

--- In HPFGU-Catalogue at yahoogroups.com, "elfundeb" <elfundeb at c...> 
wrote:
> Finished my last batch, 

CW: 40201-40300 (what, you didn't actually want some more??)

but have a couple of questions:
> 
> 1.  I couldn't find Prince of Lies in the category list.  Is it 
there?  

CW: Erm, no. Reason is that it wasn't on the acronym list. Been 
wondering whether to add it - does anyone have the post ref where it 
was first mentioned?

> 
> 2.  I had trouble cataloguing Harry and Neville as literary 
doubles.  Generational parallels wasn't quite accurate, but I didn't 
find anything better.

CW: I guess click on one of the lit categories most closely 
corresponding to the supposed double. Is it a Wizard of Oz 
comparison? In which case, children's classics..etc

> 
> Heh. TNRAMCNTSHPBTAFASETUDWOIT was my nightmare, it seems, as it 
appears that *I* asked for it.  From #38797:
> 
> An acronym for the GARBAGE SCOW, perhaps?  

CW: Hm, a fine one to talk, Ms Debbie Elf. I have just coded up your 
(lengthy) application to become a member of the Order of the FLYING 
HEDGEHOG. Trelawny didn't stand a chance did she ?!
 
> 
> About Neville the pureblood, Carolyn wrote:  
> 
> I don't think there is any other statement anywhere from an adult 
> confirming Ron's remark, ...
> 
(Debbie): What about this, from OOP ch. 37:
> 
> "'He chose the boy he thought most likely to be a danger to him,' 
said Dumbledore.  'And notice this, Harry: he chose, not the 
pureblood (which, according to his creed, is the only kind of wizard 
worth being or knowing) but the half-blood, like himself.'"
> 
> It's from a source that JKR herself has stated that she deems 
reliable enough to use to convey information that the reader needs to 
know, so I doubt he's the HBP. 
> 

Carolyn:
Tsk, tsk. I see Faith has turned up again, bulging out of her 
unsuitable gym slip, threatening me with one of her stilettos.

It's this kind of detail which separates MD enthusiasts from the 
rest. This is still a war of misinformation. The tiresome boy has 
just demonstrated how vulnerable he is to Voldie's manipulations, so 
this is absolutely not the moment to go into details of Neville's 
mother's parentage. It is essential that Harry continues to believe 
he is the One for Dumbledore's many plans to work out.

Dumbledore has shown himself quite capable of lying when he needs to, 
and conveniently in this typically Delphic utterance he doesn't 
address whether that *was* the reason that Voldemort attacked the 
Potters before the Longbottoms. All we currently know is that Voldie 
thinks that a boy born at the end of July will be his nemesis. 
Through Pettigrew's information, he saw the chance to attack the 
Potters first. It is entirely unclear what he knows about the 
Longbottoms - supposedly they were attacked later for information 
about Voldie's whereabouts, not anything to do with their child.

Not that I think Neville is the One. I think he is a genuine side-
plot, an alternative runner who isn't to be (though he could have 
been), and will probably die demonstrating that. Which is why I 
thought Elkins' bit of analysis was so good, and that the HBP 
character might be a good vehicle to work out such a plotline.


Ginger now:  I awoke with a start (no idea what I had been dreaming) 
and the thought in my head was "What if Alice's maiden name was 
Lestrange?  Wouldn't that be BANG-y?"  Just thought I'd throw that in 
here.

CW: Alas, that would ensure she was pure blood, I think. Can't see 
Bella marrying into a muggle family. But how about she was Ted 
Tonks's sister?


> Debbie
> who has forwarded the update to the elves

Ta ever so.