[HPFGU-Catalogue] Re: Questions/Neville

[elfundeb]

I wrote: 
> > 1.  I couldn't find Prince of Lies in the category list.  Is it 
> there?  
> 
CW: Erm, no. Reason is that it wasn't on the acronym list. Been 
> wondering whether to add it - does anyone have the post ref where it 
> was first mentioned?

#34752.  

I wrote:
> > 2.  I had trouble cataloguing Harry and Neville as literary 
> doubles.  Generational parallels wasn't quite accurate, but I didn't 
> find anything better.
> 
> CW: I guess click on one of the lit categories most closely 
> corresponding to the supposed double. Is it a Wizard of Oz 
> comparison? In which case, children's classics..etc

Except that the point is Harry and Neville as doubles (or mirror images) of one another.  There is no reference to any other lit.  Any ideas?

Carolyn:
> It's this kind of detail which separates MD enthusiasts from the 
> rest. This is still a war of misinformation. The tiresome boy has 
> just demonstrated how vulnerable he is to Voldie's manipulations, so 
> this is absolutely not the moment to go into details of Neville's 
> mother's parentage. It is essential that Harry continues to believe 
> he is the One for Dumbledore's many plans to work out.
> 
> Dumbledore has shown himself quite capable of lying when he needs to, 
> and conveniently in this typically Delphic utterance he doesn't 
> address whether that *was* the reason that Voldemort attacked the 
> Potters before the Longbottoms. All we currently know is that Voldie 
> thinks that a boy born at the end of July will be his nemesis. 
> Through Pettigrew's information, he saw the chance to attack the 
> Potters first. 

We should be having this debate on Main.  Stir up some interest in MD.  ;-) 

Actually, I agree with most of this.  Everything except the notion that DD lied to Harry, as it's inconsistent with the rules of engagement -- that is, the rules of the engagement between JKR and her readers.  And the rule, as I see it, is that Dumbledore does not lie to those on his side.  He withholds information, yes, but he does not outright lie, especially when he's having those end-of-book tete-a-tetes with Harry.  From PS/SS ch. 17:  "'I shall answer your questions unless I have a very good reason not to, in which case I beg you'll forgive me.  I shall not, of course, lie.'"

Ginger now:  I awoke with a start (no idea what I had been dreaming) and the thought in my head was "What if Alice's maiden name was Lestrange?  Wouldn't that be BANG-y?"  Just thought I'd throw that in here.

Heh!  In the post I wrote that prompted the unprounounceable acronym, I had suggested that Alice was the former Miss Avery.  In the post-OOP world, however, she would have to be Miss Lestrange (or Miss Crouch).

Debbie

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