[HPFGU-Catalogue] 1.2.4 Parameters set by JKR/Authorial Intent

elfundeb at comcast.net elfundeb at comcast.net
Thu Mar 17 22:50:17 UTC 2005


Carolyn:
OK OK, I agree! (Ahem - see my original definition to Barry as what 
Narrative style is really all about). It's just that a lot of these 
posts are not about anything so exciting, but instead whinging about 
how she doesn't adhere to whatever the writer thinks is 'good' 
English. Suggest a new sub-category under Narrative Style, called 
1.2.6.8 Grammar, capitalisation & punctuation to capture them. The 
speech patterns thread is, IMO, not the same thing at all, and as I 
said, we already have three categories for handling this type of 
analysis (4.1.1/4.1.1.1/4.1.1.2) which Jo is reviewing. If you like, 
those sections could also be moved up into narrative style from 
section 4.
Debbie:
Do you mean Pronunciation?  Or Differences between Editions?  I had conceived those as capturing something entirely different, and more narrow.  I see that 4.1.1.2 references speech patterns; I guess the problem is that it's misplaced in pronunciation and it would be better moved to Narrative Style.  I think we could move Differences Between Editions up, too (though speech patterns should move up separately, not as a subset) since the translation posts are largely about how badly translators have obscured her narrative style).  
However, neither "speech patterns" nor a new "grammar, capitalization and punctuation" section will capture word choice or sentence structure in the narrative outside of characters' direct speech.  How about if I just keep track of those posts until we find them a home?
Carolyn:
I don't mind a new category, but feel it belongs in the WW section, 
under 3.8 Magic. Shall we just call it 'JKR's rules for magic' ??

Debbie:
That's exactly where I would have put it.

Carolyn:
As I understand what you are saying, most of the posts currently 
under 1.2.4 Authorial intent are also cross-coded to 1.2.5 Reader 
response? If we go along with the merge plan, I can do that 
automatically for you, saving you a lot of fiddly work. Merging one 
category into another only affects the two categories concerned, and 
does not affect the other coding on the posts.

Debbie:
I would be ever so grateful if you would merge the two categories before I attack them again.  Just name your price . . .

Carolyn:
I dither over the examples..not so sure they are so distinct from 
discussion of subversion as a concept. But, OTOH, we don't want great 
chunks of theories or character discussions to sit here, cluttering 
up the section.

Debbie:
I will chop judiciously, and keep track of the examples I keep.  I'll also generally keep an eye out for subcategory possibilities if this category becomes too large of a hodgepodge.  And I'll try to write some clear definitions for all of these categories, now that I'm totally immersed.

Debbie
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