[HPFGU-Feedback] Re: What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU
Sherry Gomes
sherriola at sherriola.yahoo.invalid
Tue Feb 22 00:49:48 UTC 2005
,
I agree with this post. I've been thinking about it. When OOTP came out, I
hadn't yet heard of HPFGU. I was on a very different list. The list owners
asked everyone to be sure to post in the subject line that the message
contained spoilers, so people could avoid reading those messages, if they
hadn't finished reading the book. I didn't even look at the list folder in
my outlook program, till I had finished the book. For the most part,
everyone was very good about being sure to mention that there were spoilers.
I only remember one person putting the name of the major death in her
subject line, and she admitted doing it on purpose just because she didn't
like being told to use spoiler space. (the list had a lot of kids.)
anyway, I think that everyone on HPFGU is mature and considerate of each
other. they always indicate spoilers when they post stuff off the JKR web
site, if there's new info. maybe, the elves could ask everyone to be
careful of what they put in their subject lines, for a specified period of
time--such as one week, or two weeks. So, if so and so dies, nobody would
post a message with the subject, guess what, so and so died! In that way,
people could avoid reading messages about HBP till they were ready, but
people who read quickly and wanted to start talking could do that.
I remember when OOTP came out, I was longing to discuss it with other adult
fans. I didn't know about HPFGU, and I wasn't happy with the mostly young
teenager messages on the list I was on. I would have loved to have found
HPFGU at the time that it was released. But if I'd been told I couldn't
join or discuss the book for two weeks, I would probably not have bothered
to join at all.
Sherry
-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Hately [mailto:drednort at ....au]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 5:19 PM
To: HPFGU-Feedback at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Feedback] Re: What Price Success? Improving Posting
Quality on HPfGU
I am yet another new elf, but am speaking here entirely of my own
personal views.
Speaking personally, I am decidedly not in favour of postings being
blocked for the two weeks after the release of HBP. I've been
thinking a lot about this, and personally I think it is rather a
discriminatory policy.
I will read Half Blood Prince the day it is released (unless
something dramatic happens to stop me - which isn't impossible). By
the time a two week posting hiatus finishes, therefore, a period of
around 13 days will have passed in which the knowledge of the novel
will become far less fresh for me, and I almost certainly will have
forgotten many of the points I would be interested in raising.
Other people will take the full two weeks to read the book, so they
will have everything fresh in their mind.
So first of all, the idea of closing the list for two weeks is, in
my view, discriminatory against those who read the fastest -
because they will experience a much larger gap between the time
they finish the book, and the time they will be able to start
discussing it on HPFGU.
Second issue, somewhat related.
Half Blood Prince is due for release 16th July 2005. Therefore any
posting moratorium would presumably last until 30th July 2005.
Now, as I understand it, these dates are generally during school
holidays in both the US and the UK (somebody can correct me if I am
wrong on that).
Well, for those of us in Australia, the situation is a little
different. It differs from state to state here. In my state
(Victoria) both dates dates are during school term. This is also
true for the states of Queensland and Tasmania.
For other states and territories of Australia in Australia, the
first date is in the school holidays, the second date is after
students return to school.
So a two week hiatus policy would have the effect of ensuring that
many Australians would have no chance to post about the book during
a school holiday period, while most people in America and the
United Kingdom will.
This doesn't effect everyone, of course, because for many people
school holidays are utterly irrelevant - but as people have
apparently identified a pattern of people joining more and posting
more during the Northern Hemisphere's summer school holiday
periods, it certainly seems to me that those dates are of relevance
in considering any policy changes.
By the same token, the proposal I have seen to shut the list
completely to new members during the northern summer has the effect
of being discriminatory in favour of those of us in the southern
hemisphere - because while northerners would be prevented from
signing up during their summer holidays, us southerners wouldn't
be.
I am not saying these issues should necessarily be fatal to the
ideas proposed - but I do think there are real potential issues of
discrimination here.
And they do affect me personally, I must confess. My mid year break
(at University level) runs from the 25th May to the 24th July.
In other words, Half Blood Prince is being released a little over a
week before the end of my University holidays.
So a two week posting hiatus would mean that I am unable to comment
on the book during a period I am likely to have time to do so - and
the list will reopen just as my classes have started up again.
Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
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