[HPforGrownups] Re: An Elfly Reminder

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> Vexxy/Ceridwen:
<SNIP>
> As others have mentioned, if you had called a character a smart-
ass, 
> jerk, fool, woefully inadequate, moron, etc., or said that a 
> character was one of those things, and supported your claim ("Madam 
> Hooch was a fool to have left first-years alone with brooms" for an 
> instance), then there would be no problem.  I cuss very well, thank 
> you, "smart-ass" is nothing to me.  What surprised me, and what is 
> against policy, is calling a fellow list-member a "smart-ass" or 
any 
> sort of derogatory name.

Alla AKA Alika Elf:

Yep,yep, you should see what names I call Snape sometimes. Hehe. As 
far as I am concerned and the way I interpret the rules - character 
name calling is **fine** as long as you make sure to put that this is 
your opinion, or sometimes even without that, depending on particular 
name, but calling the fellow list member names is **not** fine.

 
> Vexxy/Ceridwen:
<SNIP>
> From what I understand, when an elf has to remind someone about 
> something that has been mentioned before, and they are aware that 
the 
> person has been doing better regarding that thing, they do mention 
> the positive history in their reminder.  I don't recall anyone ever 
> saying that Random used to call people names and has done very well 
> lately, so I didn't mention it.  As far as I know, this was the 
first 
> time you have ever called someone a name.  But as I mentioned in my 
> reminder, some people might not take kindly to it.  We need to be 
on 
> top of things to prevent hurt feelings and facilitate a friendly 
> environment on the list.

Alla:

Yes, what Shorty Elf said. It IS very hard to stay on top of making 
sure that you always give somebody not only reminders when we deem 
necessary ( as in when we decide the post violates the rules), but 
also positive feedback, because we all volunteers, many of us work 
full time jobs and put a lot of hours in managing the list too, so 
often making sure that rules are being followed is the top priority, 
because of time commitment.

BUT we do try. I know I try and other elves do too. On the top of my 
head I can remember several times when I wrote new members who posted 
their first posts perfectly formatted, attributed, etc,etc.

I thanked them for making our jobs easier ( yes, it should be a 
hobby, but the hours we pull often makes it a part time job), I 
praised them for reading the rules prior to starting posting.

Should I do it more often? Probably, but as I said I work full time 
and often there is just not enough time in the day to do so.

 
> And, I don't mean only Steve taking it wrong.  Other people read 
the 
> public exchanges.  And, other people might get defensive on Steve's 
> behalf, or simply take the fact of the name-calling as a personal 
> affront.  All of our members deserve respect for their feelings as 
> much as we can manage it.
> 
> Ceridwen, for Vexxy Elf.
>

Alla:

Indeed.

Alla AKA Alika Elf speaking for herself only.