Sirius / JAMES / iguana / prefects / SPELLS / Flitwick

Hollydaze hollydaze at btinternet.com
Mon Nov 26 20:17:29 UTC 2001


> Mirzam Black wrote:
> 
> > And if James received this award in 1972, could his second year 
at 
> > Hogwarts really BEGIN in 1972? 
> 
> I missed something. What does the plaque have to do with James's 
> second year? I'm sure the date is the end of that school year, the 
> one in which he won the award, but it could be his seventh or sixth 
> or fifth or fourth or third or second year. 
<SNIP>

OK I think I can prove that it was either his 2nd or 3rd (can't be 
any more presis -sp- without more info) year but you'll have to 
follow my line of though a bit first.

Ok first let us consider the information we know, from the book, the 
film and from JK.

We know that in book 4, Harry is 14.
We know that by at the end of book 4 Snape is 35/36 (we presume he 
was in the same year as James) we know this from JK.
We know that James won a tophy for Quidditch in 1972.
We know that James and Lily were killed when Harry was 1 (in 1981)
And lastly we know that Harry was Born in 1980.

We can now work this out.

If we follow Snape as being 35/36 and therefore James as being 35/36 
(if he was still alive NOW) then this would mean that James must have 
been 21/22 when Harry was born because 35/36 - 14 is 21/22.

So we know now that James was 21/22 in 1980.
therefore he was 20/21 in 1979
19/20 in 1978
18/19 in 1977
17/18 in 1976
16/17 in 1975
15/16 in 1974
14/15 in 1973
13/14 in 1972

Going on Both British School cut off dates AND Ron's birthday and Age 
this would point at James having received this trophy either in his 
2nd or 3rd year, here is the reasoning.

In a British school (due to the Sep 1st cut of date) you celebrate 
your 13th birthday during your second year and your 14th birthday 
during your 3rd year, now I know some people will object to this so I 
am also going to use Ron's birthday to "prove" this.

We know Ron's Birthday is on the 1st of March and everyone is agreed 
that Ron is older than Harry.

Since Harry celebrates his 13th birthday at the beginning of book 
three, it is therefore safe to presume that Ron would celebrate his 
13th birthday in the March of Book 2 (their second year) and his 14th 
birthday in the March of book 3 (their 3rd year), this has to be teh 
case or Ron would be younger than Harry. 
This would imply it is either in James' second or third year.

Also the likely hood of him being born in a month after Harry that 
would still qualify him for the same year as Snape is less than 
2/12!!! 

HOLLYDAZE!!!





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