flying/ chaser or seeker/ spells/

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Mon Nov 26 05:20:25 UTC 2001


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" 
<catlady at w...> wrote:
> I wanted James to have been a Seeker. I was annoyed when JKR said 
he 
> was a Chaser, and pleased that the movie changed him back.

I would argue that the film doesn't have the authority to change him 
back. He's a Chaser until JKR says otherwise. Sorry...I agree that 
Seeker would have been "cooler." But Chasers are pretty cool too. 
Angelina rocks...and the stars of the Irish team at the QWC were the 
Chasers, not the Seeker!

> 
> Lexicon Steve wrote:
> 
> > It states quite clearly in QA that there isn't a spell to make 
> > someone fly. But Quirrel flies
> 
> At that point, Quirrell is Voldemort. He can do impossible things.

Where has Voldemort demonstrated the ability to do impossible 
things? He has strong magical powers, true, but his powers still 
obey the laws set up by JKR for magic in her world. And Voldemort is 
not a powerful being when we meet him in SS/PS. He is extremely 
weak, actually (Quirrell even suggests that he's not strong enought 
to talk to Harry himself). He certainly is not up violating the laws 
of magical physics with someone else's body. He's lucky he can talk! 
Clearly that was a bit of dramatic license on the part of the 
filmmakers, yet another indication that the film cannot be 
considered canon.


> 
> > - oculus reparo (fixes Harry's glasses)
> 
> in canon, I think in CoS, Mr Weasley uses Reparo to fix Harry's 
> glasses. I don't consider Oculus Reparo to be a new spell, just 
that 
> Hermione, as a beginner, uses the whole incantation rather than 
> summarizing.

I think you hit the nail right on the head with this one. As with 
other spells, the full version would include an object as well as an 
action. And of course, there are a number of instances of people 
(including Hagrid) creating fires without saying anything at all!

> 
> > - - the one that creates the fire on Snape's robe,
> 
> It was Something Incendario. I am quite irritated that I didn't 
hear 
> the whole incantation.

And wouldn't it have been nice to see her recapture her bluebell 
flames in a jar and trot off with them? Ah well...Did anyone catch 
the words?


> 
> > creates sunlight, which shouldn't be possible, (snip) Lupin 
would 
> > have done it when the Dementor was on the train)
> 
> It was Patronus, not light, that deflected the Dementor on the 
train.

I'm talking about the handful of pale flame Lupin conjures to light 
the compartment before the Dementor shows up. He must have suspected 
that there were Dementors about. If there were a sunlight spell, he 
would certainly have used it then! No, if there were such spells 
available, and simple enough for a first year to do, we'd have seen 
them.

On the other hand, why the heck AREN'T there better light spells? 
They can't be all that hard to do! After all, someone worked out a 
spell to clip dragon's tonails. Certainly someone would have worked 
on a better light spell!

Steve
@Lexicon





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