[HPFGU-Movie] Re: Prisoner's hopes and dreams

[Meliss9900 at aol.com]

Melissa wrote:

> From what I've read about the COS DVD interview with JKR and Kloves I'm not
>to worried about things important to the further plots being left out.

HP wrote:

As if happens, from the PS/SS interviews, it seems that JKR specifically 
did *NOT* give Kloves any information.

>From <A HREF="http://www.wga.org/WrittenBy/1101/Kloves/Kloves.html">http://www.wga.org/WrittenBy/1101/Kloves/Kloves.html</A>

<snipped interview qoute>

It strikes me that all JKR is doing is correcting him *after the fact*, and 
he's most emphatic that she has not let him into what's to come.

Me again:

Here is the COS DVD quote from the Leaky Cauldron (finally opened after about 
a dozen tries):

*********
Liza Mzimba: Can you tell me how you work together to produce the final 
script?

Steve Kloves: Well from the beginning she gave me tremendous elbow room but 
when you're in the middle of a series like this it's important that I talk to 
Jo along the way and she will tell me if I'm going down the wrong path.

J. K. Rowling: I've given him more than I've ever given anyone else, which I 
probably shouldn't say on screen or they'll kidnap and torture him, and we 
need him.  

**********

This is why I'm not to terribly worried about the cuts that have to be made.  
I trust that when all is said and done (at the end 7 movies) that they will 
come together to make sense.  I've always been a glass-is-half-full type of 
person. Of course I also think that Dan is doing a fine job.  And I think 
that Cuaron is the perfect director to help him help Harry grow up.  (I 
really, really hope that Cuaron is still around for GoF.)


>I do think that Snape being at the Shrieking Shack is important if for no
>reason other to show the mutual hatred he and Sirius have for one another.

HP writes:

That is already perfectly adequately covered in dialogue, both by Lupin and 
Sirius and there's nothing stopping Kloves feel that it's enough. If I 
wasn't attached to the scene for other reasons, I would be inclined to agree 
with that sentiment which is why I'm so scared that it'll be cut.

Me again:

Hearing and seeing are too vastly different things.  I really think that we 
need see it for ourselves (afterall Lupin could be exaggerating).  Mainly 
because I feel that this is just going to get more and more important as we 
go through the rest of the series.

>The Dementors being at the Quidditch game is less crucial because their
>effect on Harry is demonstrated during the train ride.  No one else has a
>reaction that drastic. A quick explanation from Dumbledore as to the
>possible causes (i.e. he has a more horrible things happen in his past than 
his
>classmates ect) and we can move on to his learning the Patronus.

HP:

Except that we still need a rationale for the Nimbus 2001 to be broken, and 
as I said earlier, it's important for character development purposes for 
Harry to miss the Snitch at least once, even if it's not because the other 
Seeker is better. Every on-screen Quidditch match being a foregone 
conclusion is, frankly, boring.

Furthermore, Harry suffering from the Dementors' effects on the train does 
not give him an immediately personal reason to want to deal with them, and 
the impetus to do whatever he needs to get the Patronus to work (Quidditch 
is important to him - and the viewers - and without overcoming the Dementor 
problem, he is unable to play well, and is in immedate danger).

The narrative as it stands imposes limits on where the Demensotrs can be at 
Hogwarts, and thus it's unlikely that they would come into contact with the 
pupils, so Harry has realistically little to fear. We need to have it shown 
that the Dementors cannot be trusted to stick to those limits, and that the 
school population is aware that Harry is especially prone to their effects 
*whilst others are not* (the scene on the train involves only the Trio and 
Lupin). Their presence at the Quidditch match  establishes all of these 
things. The train sequence does not.

There's also the tiny point of establishing Cedric's honesty and honour by 
his insistence that the match be replayed rather than Hufflepuff winning by 
default.

Me again:

The train sequence could be used to show that Harry has a weakness where 
dementors are concerned. They could then have the Quidditch match against 
Hufflepuff take place off screen (hopefully we can see the final against 
Slytherin though). All they need to do is have the scene cut to after the 
fact with Harry in the hospital wing and Hermione, Ron ect., telling him what 
happened. 

Hermione gives him the demolished Nimbus and the twins relate Cedric's offer 
to play the match over. Throw in a nightmare about the dementors (perhaps 
while unconscious in the hospital wing) and you give him the personal need to 
find away to fight them.  

I just think that they might feel that Scabbers/Wormtail/Sirius plot 
development stuff is more crucial to the overall (series) story than 
Dementors and Quidditch. 

Melissa


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