[HPFGU-Movie] Gambledore
artsylynda at aol.com
artsylynda at aol.com
Tue Dec 13 14:13:15 UTC 2005
In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:25:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I know some people are going to shoot me down for this and I may sound like
a broken record, but I feel that much of the problem with the
shoulder-grabbing sequence has nothing to do with Gambon, but with
everyone's blind-spot-in-the-(lack-of)-acting-skills-department, young
Master Radcliffe. I think he gets the tone of his physical and verbal
reactions to Gambeldore quite wrong. By appearing defiant at the beginning
of the sequence, he ends up looking scared of *Dumbeldore* rather than of
what entry in the Tournament represents, which is what I suspect the
intention had been. Not to mention that this is also in the context of his
baffling (baffled?) reaction to his name coming out of the Goblet in the
first place. And talking of context, Dumbledore's physicality in that scene
is part of a more general physicality among the teachers throughout the
movie.
Richard, sometimes I wonder if we've watched the same movie. Dan portrayed
Harry as shocked beyond belief and scared spitless when his name is called.
Hermione has to urge him to get moving. There's no *defiance* anywhere. I
see him cringing when the other students call him a cheat -- head down,
shoulders taut, face frozen as he gulps hard while walking through the gauntlet of
taunting he has to bear. He's shocked and scared when Dumbledore shakes him
in the Trophy Room, too, not "defiant." Poor Harry. He was so enjoying
watching the Goblet light up, the ceremony go on, cheering for Cedric and all
that, and then HIS name comes out of the Goblet? When Dumbledore got in his
face about whether he'd put his own name in the Goblet, Harry was vehement in
saying he hadn't, but it wasn't "defiance" he was showing there, either, but
shock and desperation. Someone had "framed" him and he had no idea how it
happened or why. He was horrified. He expressed shock, disbelief and fear
beautifully in his face and body language throughout the entire sequence.
I admit that you, like the rest of us, have a right to your opinion, but you
have set yourself up as a voice of authority when it comes to film. I have
no real problem with that, because you seem to have a far better film
education than many of us (and have had time to see the film far more times than
most of us). However, I think you just don't like Dan Radcliffe in the role,
so you don't see the nuances in his acting. I think you may have closed your
mind to the possibility he might be showing the Harry from canon very well
indeed -- a boy who's been forced to be emotionally repressed most of his life
(with the Dursleys) and who has suffered taunts and derision both in the
Muggle world and the wizarding world (from the Malfoy types), while also
experiencing unwelcome adulation from others in the wizarding world. This is a boy
who has to bear burdens most adults couldn't handle -- and he has to do it on
his own, for the most part.
You keep saying he's "wooden" but I completely disagree. The only time he
looks at all "stiff" is when he seems to be protecting himself from an
expected blow (emotional or physical) of some kind. I don't see that as "wooden"
acting -- I see that as Dan portraying the Harry I've been reading all these
years, and doing it extremely well.
I admit, I like Dan in the role a lot. I was totally blown away by how
sensitive a portrayal he did in this film. Friends who've seen it and aren't
really "invested" in the films or actors told me they think he did a fabulous
job as well. I just read that he's nominated for an award for it. I hope he
wins it. I can't understand Emma being nominated for an award by the same
people, unless there just aren't enough young actresses to fill the categories.
Emma was way over the top in this film, IMO, overreacting in many scenes
(but the one after the Yule ball was perfect, as was her little giggle when
entering the ball and her desperately frightened hug of Harry before the first
task). But Dan -- he EARNED that nomination. I hope he wins it.
As for your thinking that "in depth" discussions need to be kept off of this
board -- that's just silly. We ARE grownups, with a wide variety of
opinions, tastes, interests, and we discuss all of them here without knocking anyone
for their opinions or decrying any perceived lack of intellectualism. I
enjoy reading many of your posts when you get into technical details of how
things are done, for instance, or theories behind things (I can't give you
specific examples at the moment -- I have to leave for an appointment soon and have
no time to research). There's no need for anyone to be rude to anyone else
here. Just post your opinions and have fun, as the rest of us are trying to
do.
JMO.
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"
Read my Harry Potter fics here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire/
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