The Marauders' Map, was Harry and Sirius
susanbones2003
rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu
Fri Dec 16 23:00:34 UTC 2005
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, nicholas dean <nicholas at a...>
wrote:
>
> >
> >JenD interjects:
> >I have to say that I felt the "Shrieking Shack" scene was the all-
time
> >biggest piece of Swiss cheese (aka plotholes) that I've seen so
far.
>
>
> Well, yes and no. Have you reread that scene recently? A lot of
> explanation was necessary at that point, but I think JKR dragged
it
> out a bit too much.
JenD here,
That scene was very complex and timing was everything! What Snape
heard and when he heard it was critical (to things in GOF, he can't
know that Sirius'animagus is a dog until later) and as far as I
could discern, the timeline of revelations was not very important to
Cuaron. They took a scene that transpired over an hour or so in the
book and compressed it to maybe 10 minutes. The timing of who heard
what when could not have been respected in such an abbreviated
scene. JKR uses long scenes with lots of dialogue and "looks" to
convey meaning and establish relationship. Richard devalues the
brevity of Sirius and Harry's relationship but it was established in
the Shack and over a long conversation with plenty of opportunity
for Harry to observe Sirius, to take in his manner and his story. It
was such a long scene just to do the work that would normally take
months if not years. It's to JKR's credit that we accept such an
abbreviated demonstration in order to establish a bond necessary for
the next book. Notice I said "book." At any rate, the abbreviated
nature of the Shrieking Shack scene did make any bond between Harry
and Sirius look pretty thin on the ground. Thus Richard can make his
assertion that the relationship is not important to the narrative of
GOF. I was bemoaning the lack of expostition in POA that made Sirius
negligible in GOF. Hope that gives you a little something to chew on!
JenD
> Snipped a bit here and there...
Nicholas wrote:
> The movie went to the other extreme, cutting it too much in the
> interests of dramatic tension.
>
> I would like to have seen something halfway between what the book
> gave us and what we saw on the screen.
Jen Again,
Couldn't agree with you more, more Shrieking Shack would have packed
a nice emotional punch for those of us who need that sort of thing.
Jen, running off to the mundanity of her RL...
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