Possible clues in movie lines?
thekrenz
thekrenz at msn.com
Sat Jan 8 19:16:36 UTC 2005
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "cultivatepeace2000"
<cultivatepeace2000 at y...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, oneheartway_03 at m... wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't know if anyone else picked up on these lines, but I'm
> really
> > wondering what type of foreshadowing they might have on future
> events
> > in books/ movies.
> > The first one is the line stated by Dumbledore in Chamber of
> Secrets
> > when he was in Hagrid's hut. The line was directed at a
> (presumably)
> > invisable Harry and Ron prior to his leaving the hut. He
> said "HELP
> > WILL ALWAYS BE GIVEN AT HOGWARTS TO THOSE WHO....ASK FOR IT"
> > We see some truth to this in the same movie when Harry needs
help
> to
> > defeat Riddle and the basalisk and Fawkes appears with the
sorting
> > hat for Harry to remove the sword of Gryffindor from.
> > *SPOILER WARNING BOOK 4*
> > We also see evidence of him receiving help when he needs it when
> > Cedric and his parents' spirits come out of the wand during the
> > dueling scene in Goblet of Fire and give him instructions on
what
> to
> > do and tell him that they will be there long enough for him to
do
> it.
>
> CultivatePeace2000:
> That line was in the book as well as the movie. I had always
thought
> that it foreshadowed the climactic chamber scene you mentioned
above
> rather than anything that would happen in future books/movies. In
> the book, Harry actually silently pleads for help. In answer,
> Gryffindor's sword appears for him.
>
> oneheartway_03 at m... then wrote:
> > My second line that I question was again stated by Dumbledore,
but
> in
> > the Prisoner of Azkaban movie during the welcoming start of term
> > speech in the great hall. He stated that "EVEN IN THE DARKEST
OF
> > TIMES ONE CAN ALWAYS FIND HOPE, IF ONE SIMPLY REMEMBERS TO TURN
ON
> > THE LIGHT".
> > I don't know yet what that might pertain to, but I'd love to
hear
> > some feedback on what anyone else thinks about these lines and
> > possible foreshadowing!
>
> CultivatePeace2000:
> That line made me think too. Here again, I thought this quote
> probably was foreshadowing the climax of the film. Maybe I am
taking
> things too literally, but I saw "the darkest time" being the
> dementors' attacks, and "turn on the light" in reference to Harry
> having the resolve to conjure his patronus.
>
> The statement is such a general saying,though, that it could refer
to
> the answer in many "dark" moments--so you may have a point
thinking
> that it would foreshadow other future moments.
I was struck by Molly at the train station. I wonder if at some
point during "Scabbers'" 12 year stay at the Burrow if Molly may
have seen him transform into Peter Pettigrew. She is so adamant
that Ron not lose Scabbers as she runs along side the Hogwarts
Express.
Also, my family were watching SS recently and my hubby pointed out
some foreshadowing I had never noticed. When Harry and Ron are late
for Transfiguration, Prof. McGonagall offers to turn them into a
pocketwatch (time turner in POA) and the into a map (Maurader's Map
in POA). Was that foreshadowing, or just conincidence?
Cyndi
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