Snape and DD in GoF/missing scene/setup for OOTP

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Tue Nov 22 13:56:52 UTC 2005


Lupinlore:
> I think if they are indeed trying to help in the setup for OOTP, it 
> will be crucial to see how that book is handled (I believe by a new 
> screenwriter/director team). 

SSSusan:
Indeed -- David Yates directing and Michael Goldenberg doing the 
screenwriting.


Lupinlore:
> Kloves and Newell actually had a great advantage with GoF, as it is 
> easily the most inherently cinematic of  the books.  The Tri-Wizard 
> Tournament is by its very nature a cinematic event, as are the 
> Quidditch World Cup and Harry's confrontation with Voldemort in the 
> graveyard, and the costumes and accents brought in by the 
> contingents from Durmstrang and Beauxbatons are a film maker's 
> dream .  OOTP, on the other hand, isn't nearly so cinematic, at 
> least not until the very end with the fight at the MoM ....

SSSusan:
I totally agree, and I don't envy at ALL the task facing Goldenberg & 
Yates!  Just sitting and thinking about OotP and which parts I would 
bring in is difficult.  It's LONGER than GoF and yet, as you say, 
there's much LESS that's easily adaptable cinematically (or at least 
so it seems to this non-expert/only-a-fan).


Lupinlore:
> The question of DD's behavior and attitude is one of the most 
> controversial of the issues that plague OOTP.  How the director and 
> screenwriter handle it will, I think, largely determine people's 
> reaction.  Perhaps they will "play up" DD's belief in the inherent 
> danger of him getting too close to Harry, and his determination not 
> to put Harry in danger again. 

SSSusan:
I hope that they do.  And they can still do it in a way which clues 
the *audience* in while leaving Harry frustratedly in the dark.  
Because that seems to me to be a key element of the story -- the 
misunderstanding between them, the way Harry feels betrayed by 
DD's "lack of interest."


Lupinlore proposed: 
> MINERVA:  Albus, you know that horrible woman is trying to bring 
> Harry down.  Don't you think you had better speak to him?
> 
> ALBUS: Voldemort is attempting to subvert Harry's mind, Minerva.  I 
> would be putting him in horrible danger if I let him get close to 
> me.  I put him in terrible danger last year, I will not do so 
> again.  Just keep an eye on him.  I have every confidence that we 
> can handle the likes of Dolores Umbridge. 
> 
> MINERVA:  But Albus...
> 
> ALBUS:  We are all worried, Minerva.  But I must protect Harry - I 
> must.
> 
> MINERVA:  <Purses lips and looks very worried>

SSSusan:
Yep, that would do it... and in a very short sequence as well (which 
I'm sure will be key when they've got 800+ pages to "translate" onto 
screen).


Lupinlore:
> Otherwise I'm afraid we'll have an entire movie of Angry!Harry and 
> Frustrated!Harry and Untrustworthy!Dumbledore and Distant!Minerva 
> that will leave a bad taste in viewers' mouths (particularly after 
> the portrayal of Minerva and DD in GoF) not much palliated by 
> Dumbledore's big revelation at the end (as indeed was the case with 
> the book).

SSSusan:
Right.  This is what I don't want to see.  I mean, I *do* think it 
would be "correct" to see a lot of Angry!Harry and Frustrated!Harry, 
but I want us the audience to be clued in to DD's true feelings and 
motivations so that we don't have to feel as Harry does, if that 
makes sense.

Siriusly Snapey Susan








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